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William Herbert Smith Family

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Fionapatel

Fionapatel Report 2 Jan 2012 18:15

I am trying to find any descendants of my grandfathers siblings he was born William Herbert Smith in 1905 West Derby area of Liverpool and his siblings were all born in the same area parents Albert and Janet Smith(nee Meikle)
Stanley B Sep 1918
Frank B Sep 1914
Leonard B Jun 1923
Ada B Mar 1907
Clara B Mar 1902
Arthur B 14th June 1909
Alfred B Mar 1904
Albert F B Sep 1911
Janet B Sep 1913 and died at birth
Harold B Dec 1916
Janet B Sep 1920

I only know that Leonard Married a Doreen Emsley and they had two children Lynda and Frank but cannot confirm dates of marriage due to being Smiths the rest of the family I have no information on. Have tried searching through genes but so many Smiths it is difficult to locate the correct one. Any help greatly appreciated

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Jan 2012 18:33

Doesn't matter that the name was Smith, you had both names, easy to find marriage:

Marriages Jun 1947 (>99%)
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Emsley Doreen Smith Liverpool N. 10d 338
Smith Leonard Emsley Liverpool N. 10d 338

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Jan 2012 18:37

There seem to be a couple of people with Doreen in their tree - use 'search trees' box above to find them.
Jan

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Jan 2012 18:37

2 Smith children with mother's maiden name Emsley born in Liverpool. Also 1 born Leeds. Possible?

Edit: I had posted the names then realised I shouldn't have done so as they're probably still living. Easy to find on FreeBMD using surname and mother's surname.

Fionapatel

Fionapatel Report 2 Jan 2012 21:45

Thank you for all this, i have the marriage of the parents which is how I found the children's names, but can not go any further. Also have contacted all people with trees, and they have come back to me but all on the mothers side, and have no details about the children, so know further forward.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Jan 2012 22:05

Sorry, Fiona, I understood that you couldn't find the marriage of Leonard & Doreen. I must learn to read more carefully.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Jan 2012 23:34

Fiona, do you have any exact birthdates or middle names, for the males particularly? I ask because if all else fails it might be worth looking for their deaths. After 1969 the DOB (if known by the informant) is shown on the indexes. The middle name is often shown too. Death certs can be a good source of information (I speak from experience!).
Jan

Fionapatel

Fionapatel Report 3 Jan 2012 07:58

I have tried this, but will try again, sometimes over a 1000 come up as I don't know the area that they died, my grandfather died in Sussex and lived in London all his life and the only other death I have found died in Cheshire. Many thanks for the tip will continue along this route.

Flick

Flick Report 3 Jan 2012 10:15

Weird..........FMP shows that I have accessed this record before..........do you have another thread, Fiona?

1911 census - household transcription
Person: SMITH, Clara
Address: 59 Venice St Everton Liverpool

SMITH, Albert Head Married M 30 1881 Fruit Salesman Derbyshire Derby VIEW
SMITH, Janet Wife Married
10 years F 30 1881 Liverpool Lancs VIEW
SMITH, Clara Daughter F 9 1902 Liverpool Lancs VIEW
SMITH, Alfred Son M 7 1904 Liverpool Lancs VIEW
SMITH, William Herbert Son M 6 1905 Liverpool Lancs VIEW
SMITH, Ada Daughter F 4 1907 Liverpool Lancs VIEW
SMITH, Arthur Son M 1 1910 Liverpool Lancs VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22504 Reference:


Flick

Flick Report 3 Jan 2012 10:26

Albert registered JAS 1911 had second initial 'F'

Could this be his death?

Name: Albert Frederick Smith
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1911
Date of Registration: Mar 1991
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 1533


OR........if registration was slightly late

Name: Albert Frederick Smith
Birth Date: 1 Jun 1911
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1982
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Walsall
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 34
Page: 0298


Have you checked for possible WW2 deaths on the CWGC site?

Flick

Flick Report 3 Jan 2012 10:27

When looking for Lancs info.......always remember to check...........

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/