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Help neded to find SAPSFORD relatives please x

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EllenS

EllenS Report 24 Dec 2011 15:00

I have George W Sapsford b.1912 Edmonton marrying Nellie M Smith in 1937 Hertford.
Also his brothers were

Arthur Charles Sapsford b.1915 married Daisy Lillian Cook 1948 Ware Hertfordshire
and

Ernest Francis Sapsford b.1915 married Daisy Bell

Can anyone help me find their children (if they had any please) hopefully I have the correct mariages as well

Any Help much appriciated

Ellen

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 24 Dec 2011 15:40

Ellen, have you tried looking for matches on here by using 'search trees' box?
I assume you found the marriages on Freebmd and have looked for births on there already?
Jan

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Dec 2011 15:47

Try searching on freebmd for births.

Select births with surname Sapsford and mmn in turn Smith, Cook and Bell.

With a year range 1937-1947, there are a number of Sapsford/Smith births, with about 4 in the right general area...........probably 2 different couples, but you never know.

Daisy Bell + Ernest F Sapsford marriage took place in 1940 in Ware, Herts.

There is a possible Sapsford/Bell birth

******* Sapsford
Mother's Maiden Surname: Bell
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1943
Registration district: Bishop's Strotford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire, Oxfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 1600

Clue, rather than PM as it's Christmas
" O come all ye *****ful, joyful and triumphant"

Paul

Paul Report 24 Dec 2011 15:48

...or you could just read the PM I just sent containing details of how to contact a descendant of Ernest :-P

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Dec 2011 15:58

Deaths? If relatively recent, the informant may be a child, possibly with a married name.

George W Sapsford
Birth Date: abt 1912
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1964
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Hertford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 4b
Page: 99

Daisy Lilian Sapsford
Birth Date: 30 Jul 1913
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1982
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Harlow
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9
Page: 2214

More likely to be....
Daisy Lilian Sapsford
Birth Date: 25 Mar 1911
Date of Registration: Jan 1995
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Southend On Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Register number: B61B
District and Subdistrict: 4751B
Entry number: 299

************


Nellie M Sapsford
Birth Date: abt 1909
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1947
Age at Death: 38
Registration district: Epping
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5a
Page: 105

******************

Arthur Charles Sapsford
Birth Date: 19 Mar 1915
Date of Registration: Oct 1984
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Hertford and Ware
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 10
Page: 371

*********

Where Ernest and Arthur twins?

Ernest Francis Sapsford
Birth Date: 19 Mar 1915
Date of Registration: Jan 1984
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Havering
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 13
Page: 334

Can't spot a Daisy no middle name death.


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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Dec 2011 15:58

And :-P to Paul as well ! :-D :-D

Actually Paul, it is useful to other people who may be able to help, to give a brief resume on the thread about the info you have sent/are about to send by PM.

But as long as Ellen gets the information, that's all that really matters. :-)

EllenS

EllenS Report 24 Dec 2011 16:03

Thank you all for your help. I have looked for a marriage for George W Sapsford but there are so many I would have to get all the marriage certs to get the correct one.
I dont think Arthur and Daisy had any children as the only one I can find was born in 1929
Yes Arthur and Ernest were twins and passed away in the same year

All have a very merry christmas and a happy new year x

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Dec 2011 16:17

This is the original George W Sapsford with Nellie M Smith, as quoted by you

George W Sapsford
Spouse Surname: Smith
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937
Registration district: Hertford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 3951

If you wanted to get the MC, but are unsure if its the right one, you could order from GRO but don't tick the 'know reference number' box.

Then you give a year you want the search to start from, giving 01/01/1937 if necessary. Only put the fathers name that you are sure about. EG if he was George Walter Sapsford, but only recorded as George or George W, they won't issue it. They will search for a total of 3 years and issue the one, if found, that matches your criteria.

Alternatively, you could contact the local register office, although the GRO reference isn't any good to them. they would need the year and quarter.

Something to leave to the New year.

Have a Good Christmas :-)