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3rd try to post reply!!!.
Rose
Thank you I did know all that.
Now in touch with Glossop Heritage Sntre and emailing them the photos and they are hopefull they will be able to identify people from their database of 8,000 images.
Will keep you all posted.

Stewart

Rose

thanks for all that but I do have it all. Sorry I did not confirm Tom and Clara were siblings.
The Jowle name was sometimes spelt as Joule.
I am trying to track down any of the remaining family and have only today been in contact with the Heritage Centre in Glossop, Derbyshire which is where Tom lived. They have a family history section and some very keen. knowledgable people involved. the guy I spoke to today says it is very likely they will be able to identify some of the people as they see thousands of old photos where the people are known. I certainly want to see the album returned to someone closer to the family than me but we have to track them down first.
I am, scanning the photos in to PC and emailing to heritage Centre so that is a start.
thank you so much for your interest.
Please keep the ideas coming.
Stewart

Stewart,

Do you already know all this as you say you are related?

Rose

How about this?

1881 Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas JOWLE Head M Male 61 Bamford, Derby, England Quarryman
Martha JOWLE Wife M Female 54 Norton, York, England
Hannah JOWLE Daur U Female 30 Bamford, Derby, England Cotton Warper
Mary JOWLE Daur U Female 22 Bamford, Derby, England Cotton Winder
Clara JOWLE Daur U Female 20 Bamford, Derby, England Cotton Warper
Rachel JOWLE Daur U Female 18 Bamford, Derby, England Cotton Winder
Lucy JOWLE Daur U Female 16 Bamford, Derby, England Cotton Weaver

Source Information:
Dwelling New Road
Census Place Tintwistle, Cheshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341971
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4061 / 11
Page Number 15

Rose

Parents are Samuel and Lucy Jowle.

Are you sure of the spelling of Joule. Could it be Jowle? That means Mary and Clara could be sisters of Lucy.

Rose

1911?

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD YATES ARTHUR M 1892 19 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES DORA F 1891 20 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES LUCY F 1865 46 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES MABEL F 1896 15 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES MARY F 1894 17 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES NELLY F 1903 8 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES SAMUEL M 1869 42 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES THOMAS M 1898 13 Glossop Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD YATES CLARA F 1897 14 Glossop Derbyshire

Rose

Could this be Tom and Clara?

Births Dec 1896
Yates Clara Hayfield 7b 843

Births Mar 1898
Yates Tom Hayfield 7b 874

Rose

I didn't realise how close Glossop is to Hyde. I suspect this album was left to Beryl after her parents died. With no living descendants, it made it's way to a market.

I suspect Clara and Tom must be siblings. Might be worth tracking down other siblings of theirs.

Rose

Rose

i suspect that is our Olga. What a shame and perhaps that explains why the photo album came to be on sale on a market stall in Glossop.

I am using the search facility here and have several messages out trying to trace other family but I dont hold out huge hope that I will find anyone able to identify the people in the photos.

there is however a Heritage Centre for Glossop so maybe i will send the album to them so they can publicise it locally.

Thank you for all your help.

Any other ideas appreciated.
Stewart

She died in Tameside district which includes Hyde.

Rose

Rose
Do you know place of death? Last known address I have for Olga was Hyde.
I dont think the Worthing lady is our Olga as my late mother was in contact with her and would have told me if she had married .
I am so grateful for your help.
Stewart

There's a Beryl O Yates who married a Kenneth Shackleton in Worthing in 1992.

Looks like he died in 2000 and he was born in 1915. A Beryl A Shackleton shows on the 2002 electoral roll.

This would be his birth and he does appear in some trees on this site:

Births Mar 1915
SHACKLETON Kenneth Little Keighley 9a 301

Rose

If Beryl never married, there is a death in 2000 for a Beryl Olga Yates who was born in July 1928.

This does fit with the quarter her birth was registered.

Rose

Rose has kindly supplied details of Olga's birth and she would now be 85 if she is alive which is possible. Will be trying a directory enquiry search on Monday. Does nopt of course explain whyn the photo album if it is Olga's was on sale on a stall at Glossop market?
It is such a shame I have all these lovely old photos and would really like them to be with someone from the family.

Rose

thank you for that which does answer a mystery in that I have a postcard in the photo album addressed to a Ms B. O. Yates that I thought might be an error but clearly is not. Very gratefull to you. This might change things!

Stewart

Lynski
Thanks for reply. Yes I have tried putting names in and made a start with Olga yates. Had one negative reply and waiting for others
Thanks for your response.
Stewart

Is Clara Tom's sister?

Her birth?

Births Dec 1896
Yates Clara Hayfield 7b 843

Looks like she didn't have any children.

Rose

"Olga" must be known by her middle name:

Births Sep 1928
Yates Beryl O Wadsworth Stockport 8a 20

Rose

Marriages Dec 1926
Wadsworth Mary Yates Ashton 8d 1164
Yates Tom Wadsworth Ashton 8d 1164

Rose

Marriages Dec 1921 (>99%)
Bowden Cyril R Yates Glossop 7b 1974
Yates Clara Bowden Glossop 7b 1974

Births Dec 1896 (>99%)
Bowden Cyril Redford Hayfield 7b 845

If this is him (??) he would have been 25 when he married.

Name: BOWDEN, Cyril Redford
Registration District: Help Chapel En Le Frith
County: Derbyshire
Year of Registration: 1970
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Date of Birth: 4 October 1896
Volume No: 10A
Page No: 2651

I wonder????

Name: BOWDEN, Clara
Registration District: Help Glossop
County: Derbyshire
Year of Registration: 1923
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 26
Volume No: 7B
Page No: 981

???????
Marriages Mar 1928 (>99%)
Bowden Cyril R Wild Glossop 7b 1239
WILD Sarah A Bowden Glossop 7b 1239