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Margaret
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18 Oct 2011 14:50 |
My great grandparents were all from Shropshire - George Hales born 1831 he married Margaret nee - Caldecotte. They had a large number of children , William, Philip, Ellen,Elizabeth, alice, Emily, Louisa, Charlotte - The family owned different farms FarmHouse, Shawsbury in 1871 -Gadlas Farm. Ellesmere in 1881 Damsons Farm Whitchurch in1941
I am wondering how I would find any of the above decendants siblings - and if there are still any in the Shropshire area. I am thinking of spending a few days there just to see what or who may be still around.
I wondered if there are any Hales decendants from Shropshire on genes reunited - who would have any idea on how to find anyone connected to this family.
We have checked the family trees and come to a dead end - so any help would be wonderful
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18 Oct 2011 15:12 |
If you've looked in search trees, and found nothing, then no-one has the names in a GR tree
I rather think you are looking for CHILDREN of the offspring whose names you give...........they are each others' siblings.
To find descendants, you should start by looking on freebmd for marriages..............then search on later censuses to identify chlidren............then repeat the process for each generation.
As you have info as recent as 1941, you must have more details than you mention To find people with the name currently in the area, try the BT phone book
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18 Oct 2011 15:15 |
As you haven't given birth info for the children it is difficult to try to help you, although, as you appear to have access to censuses, you should be able to work through the generations yourself
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18 Oct 2011 15:15 |
oops, that should have read 1841. I have tried calling several Hales in the area, but so far with no luck.
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18 Oct 2011 15:23 |
For INFO.........1881
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability George HALES Head M Male 50 Wem, Shropshire, England Farmer 100 Acres Margaret B. HALES Wife M Female 45 Chester, Cheshire, England Ellen HALES Daur U Female 22 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England Farmers Daughter Elizabeth HALES Daur Female 21 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Farmers Daughter Alice HALES Daur Female 18 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Farmers Daughter George HALES Son Male 16 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Aprentice Draper Emily HALES Daur Female 14 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Loeisa HALES Daur Female 13 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Scholar Charlotte HALES Daur Female 11 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Scholar Williams HALES Son Male 10 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Scholar Henery HALES Son Male 9 Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Scholar Charles HALES Son Male 6 Shawbury, Shropshire, England Anne JONES Servt U Female 13 Overton, Flint, Wales General Servt Mary BLANTERN Visitor W Female 70 Malpas, Cheshire, England
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18 Oct 2011 15:25 |
Name: Margaret Blanche Hales Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1885 Age at Death: 48 Registration district: Ellersmere Inferred County: Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 563
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18 Oct 2011 15:26 |
1891....
Name: Philip Henry Hales Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Hales Gender: Male Where born: Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Overton Ecclesiastical parish: Overton Town: Overton County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Registration district: Ellesmere Sub-registration district: Overton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2119 Folio: 23 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age George Hales 68 Ellen Hales 32 Emily R Hales 25 Louisa C Hales 24 Charlotte J Hales 22 Philip Henry Hales 20 Walter Hales 70 Brother, b. Wem William Jones 16
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18 Oct 2011 15:32 |
Name: Emily Rose Hales Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1893 Age at Death: 27 Registration district: Ellersmere Inferred County: Shropshire Volume: 6a Page: 415
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18 Oct 2011 15:35 |
Thank you very
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18 Oct 2011 15:35 |
Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hales Charlotte Jane Ellesmere 6a 1147 Lunt John Ellesmere 6a 1147 ____________________________________________________
Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gibbs John Edward Ellesmere 6a 1601 Hales Louisa Caroline Ellesmere 6a 1601
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18 Oct 2011 15:37 |
1911 census - household transcription
Person: LUNT, Charlotte Jane Address: Little Cloy Overton Ellesmere Shropshire LUNT, John Head Married M 39 1872 Farmer Penley Ellesmere Salop VIEW LUNT, Charlotte Jane Wife Married 17 years F 40 1871 Ellesmere Salop VIEW ROGERS, Eleanor Single F 16 1895 Servant St Martin Shropshire VIEW JONES, Nathaniel Single M 21 1890 Servant Overton Flints VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 16166 Reference: RG14PN16166 RG78PN999 RD351 SD1 ED3 SN26 Registration District: Ellesmere Sub District: Overton Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Overton
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18 Oct 2011 15:41 |
1911 census - household transcription Person: GIBBS, Louisa Caroline Address: Wigginton Hall St Martins Oswestry GIBBS, John Edward Head Married M 40 1871 Farmer Dudleston Salop VIEW GIBBS, Louisa Caroline Wife Married 11 years F 43 1868 Ellesmere Salop VIEW GIBBS, Mary Louisa Daughter F 8 1903 St Martins Salop VIEW GIBBS, Beatrice Emily Daughter F 7 1904 St Martins Salop VIEW GIBBS, Balnche Ruth Daughter F 6 1905 St Martins Salop VIEW GIBBS, Muriel Agnes Daughter F 4 1907 St Martins Salop VIEW ROBERTS, John Single F 47 1864 Farm Labourer Selattyn Salop VIEW ALLEN, Thomas Single M 26 1885 Cowman On Farm Littleness Salop VIEW BUTLER, Earnest Single M 23 1888 Waggoner On Farm Hanmer Flintshire VIEW PEATE, Elizabeth Single F 17 1894 Domestic Servant St Martins Salop VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 16154 Reference: RG14PN16154 RG78PN998 RD350 SD4 ED2 SN35 Registration District: Oswestry Sub District: St Martins Enumeration District: 2 Parish:
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18 Oct 2011 15:49 |
I'll leave you to look for marriages of the children as per 1911 census records...............also to find whether there were any further additions to the Gibbs family after 1911
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18 Oct 2011 15:59 |
Name: Charlotte J Lunt Birth Date: abt 1869 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939 Age at Death: 70 Registration district: Holywell Inferred County: Flintshire Volume: 11b Page: 623
The Probate of her Will is on Ancestry.....my sub doesn't stretch to those records
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18 Oct 2011 16:01 |
1901
Name: Charlt J Lunt Age in 1901: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Lunt Gender: Female Where born: Ellesmere, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Overton Ecclesiastical parish: Overton St Mary County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Registration district: Ellesmere Sub-registration district: Overton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 36 Piece: 2547 Folio: 29 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age John Lunt 30 Charlt J Lunt 32 Chas James Hales 27 Brother in Law - Occ: CHEMIST
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18 Oct 2011 16:04 |
1911
1911 census - household transcription Person: HALES, Charles James Address: 45 Station Road Retford HALES, Charles James Head Married 7 years M 35 1876 Chemist Assistant Ellesmere Salop VIEW HALES, Anne Wife Married 7 years F 34 1877 Boston Lincs VIEW HALES, Charles Harold Son M 5 1906 Retford Notts VIEW HALES, Frank Robert Son M 3 1908 Retford Notts VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 20205 Reference: RG14PN20205 RG78PN1209 RD426 SD3 ED11 SN66 _________________________________________________________
Deaths Dec 1937 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hales Charles J 64 E.Retford 7b 10
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18 Oct 2011 16:40 |
That is womderful thank you for all this information
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18 Oct 2011 17:07 |
Name: Charles Harold Hales Birth Date: 9 Nov 1905 Date of Registration: Feb 1986 Age at Death: 80 Registration district: Liverpool Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 36 Page: 416 _________________________________________________________
Name: Frank R Hales Spouse Surname: Gutteridge Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1935 Registration district: Basford Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume Number: 7b Page Number: 618 Find Spouse: Kathleen
There is a possible second marriage for Frank...........in 1968, in Kent
I can't see a death for him..........strange!
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18 Oct 2011 17:39 |
Yes, that is very strange. I have had the same problem with Philip Henry Hales. I never could find a death for him either and he was born in 1868 so I know he is still not alive.
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18 Oct 2011 19:12 |
It looks like Frank Robert died in 1963.
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