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looking for any info on the family of alice chater who lived in west bromwich and died in 1977. she also had a sister clara who was married to my great great grandfather thomas winter. clara died in 1961 they lived close together in the same street in west bromwich hales lane. just wanted to know if anybody had any info on alice's children if any. sorry no names. :-S

First point.

What was Alice's maiden name?

And.........

Have you done any research yourself?

On freebmd, for example...........................

Have you tried Search Trees on this site?

If you find a possible match you can contact the tree owner to see if you have a connection.

There's no death for an Alice Chater in 1977.

Rose

Fact....................


Name: Clara Winter
Birth Date: abt 1875
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1961
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 182


We need some facts from you, Teresa, please.....specifically, the year and place of Alice's birth, and her full birth name. Plus her name at death, and its location

I can't see a marriage for Thomas Winter to anyone named Clara which would seem to fit ..........certainly none in the Warwickshire/Staffordshire area

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Births Sep 1874 (>99%)
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Chater Clara Southam 6d 634

sorry everyone need to start again alice martin married a chater in west brom alice was born in west bromwich in 1877 father william martin nad emma martin nee chambers, looking to see if alice had any children.

sorry everyone need to start again alice martin married a chater in west brom alice was born in west bromwich in 1877 father william martin nad emma martin nee chambers, looking to see if alice had any children. not sure of death year and year of her marriage.

Do you want to re-think her death year? Or did she really live to be 100?

And perhaps you could also provide details of her 'marriage'....................

As you are the one asking for help, it's down to you to give us all the info you have

Posting 1881 for some sort of clarity

Name: Alice Martin
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Martin
Mother's Name: Emma Martin
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: West Bromwich
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 13 (Cooper Hill St)

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2851
Folio: 108
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
William Martin 30
Emma Martin 29
Sophia Martin 8
Mary Ann Martin 6
Clara Martin 2
Alice Martin 3 MONTHS
Frederic Chambers 37

So your birth year info is also inaccurate

And 1891

Name: Alice Martin
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Martin
Mother's Name: Emma Martin
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Bakewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2273
Folio: 62
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
William Martin 40
Emma Martin 39
Sophia Martin 17
Mary Martin 16
Clara Martin 12
Alice Martin 10
Harriet Martin 8
William Martin 4
Alfred Martin 1

Also 1901

Name: Alice Martin
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Martin
Mother's Name: Emma Martin
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich, North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Piece: 2723
Folio: 110
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
William Martin 50
Emma Martin 49
Alice Martin 20
Harriet Martin 18
William Martin 14
Alfred Martin 11
Emma Martin 8
Ada Martin 5

Not seeing a marriage for a Martin to Chater

jax

thank you

Did Clara marry more than once?

Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)
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Dean Joel West Bromwich 6b 1447
Fisher William W Bromwich 6b 1447
HOLLOWAY Mary Ann W. Bromwich 6b 1447
Martin Clara W Bromwich 6b 1447


Having checked 1901, Joel Dean married Holloway

Where did you get the 'info' about Alice marrying a Chater?

Please would you answer all the questions....they are asked in an effort to try to help you

There is no death on Ancestry for an Alice Chater whose birth info matches that of the person being researched

1901

Name: Clara Fisher
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Fisher
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich, North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Piece: 2723
Folio: 112
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
William Fisher 26
Clara Fisher 22
Harriet Fisher 1
Frederick Fisher 2 Months

1911................................confirms the marriage, and 1901 census

1911 census - household transcription
Person: MARTIN, Ada
Address: 19 Colley St West Bromwich


FISHER, William Head Head M 36 1875 Colliery Horse Driver Below Ground Bromwich Staffordshire VIEW
FISHER, Clara Wife Wife F 32 1879 Bromwich Staffordshire VIEW
MARTIN, Ada Sister In Law Single F 15 1896 Press Worker Bromwich Staffordshire VIEW
FISHER, Harriet Daughter F 11 1900 Bromwich Staffordshire VIEW
FISHER, Frederick Son M 10 1901 Bromwich Staffordshire VIEW
FISHER, Alfred Son M 2 1909 Bromwich Staffordshire VIEW
FISHER, James Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Bromwich Staffordshire VIEW

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Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CHAMBERS Thomas W. Bromwich 6b 1495
Deakin[gs] Joseph Hebberd W.Bromwich 6b 1495
Deakins Joseph Hebberd W. Bromwich 6b 1495
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Martin Alice W. Bromwich 6b 1495
MORRIS Selina Bessie W.Bromwich 6b 1495
Morris Selina Dessie W. Bromwich 6b 1495


1911 census - household transcription
Person: CHAMBERS, Alice
Address: 51 Cronehill St West Bromwich


CHAMBERS, Thomas Head Married M 31 1880 General Labourer Highury Dept West Bromwich Staffs VIEW
CHAMBERS, Alice Wife Married
3 years F 30 1881 West Bromwich Staffs VIEW
CHAMBERS, Alfred Son M 2 1909 West Bromwich Staffs VIEW
MARTIN, Emma Cousin Single F 18 1893 Press Hand West Bromwich Staffs VIEW

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She obviously married a cousin on her mother's side