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Eliza ,Anna Maria,Alice and Elvina COPEMAN

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Brenda

Brenda Report 23 Jun 2011 23:06

I am trying to trace any living relatives of Eliza Copeman nee Coleman born in 1832 in Norfolk .She had 3 daughters Anna Maria(1872) who married Frederick Daines,Alice (1869) who married William Goodrum and Elvina (1877) who married Fred Lemmon.One of Elvina's daughters Rose(1905) married a man called Moxon.Elvina Lemmon nee Copeman died in Norwich in 1961 aged about 84.I am trying to find out if this was the cousin my great aunt Leah Atkinson(1877) nee Coleman from Yorkshire, visited in Norfolk in the 1920's/30's and 40's.I need a living relative to prove my realationship to this family before I can carry on further research on my family tree.Thank you

patchem

patchem Report 23 Jun 2011 23:15

Have you looked to see if anyone has any of these relatives in their family trees?
How will a living relation prove your relationship, as they might have very little knowledge of great aunt Leah?

patchem

patchem Report 23 Jun 2011 23:23

Marriages Jun 1919
xxx Atkinson James H Coleman Bradford 9b 553
xxx Coleman Leah Atkinson Bradford 9b 553
Holmes Elisa Packett Bradford 9b 553
Packett Theophilus Holmes Bradford 9b 553

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1881 England Census
Leah Coleman
Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 162 Barkerend Rd
Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Bradford, East End ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Piece: 4445 Folio: 62 Page Number: 8

Leah Abbott 56 head widow eating house keeper Leeds
Clement Scholefield 66 bro unmarried gentleman imbecile Leeds
Mary A. Coleman 33 dau widow Leeds
Emily Slinger 15 dau Bradford
Leah Coleman 4 grndau Bradford
Dennis Coleman 2 grnson Bradford
Joseph Corverley 66

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4445; Folio: 62; Page: 8; GSU roll: 1342063.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 24 Jun 2011 09:37

Hello Brenda and welcome to the boards.

If you do as patchem has suggested (putting the names you are researching into the Search Trees box above), you will see that quite a few members on this site seem to be researching the same family.

You can contact the tree owners for further info.

If you would like help researching your tree, then there are a lot of members willing to help you. Take a look at the Help Clinic - above left - for further advice.

Regards. Cx.

Brenda

Brenda Report 24 Jun 2011 18:24

Thank you for all your replies.I know it is a long shot but I can only say that my sister who is 71 remembers my great aunt leah say she went to visit cousins in Norfolk so I thought a living relative of the cousin- which may have been 1 of the daughters of Eliza Copeman nee Coleman- may remember her when they were children.It is the only way I am going to prove my Great grandfather George Coleman belongs to that Norfolk family as there is no trace of him on the 1871 census and he was dead before the 1881 census.

patchem

patchem Report 24 Jun 2011 19:29

If you give details we can try and find him on the 1871 census.

Also, if you carefully work backwards, you will meet common ancestors if the two families are connected.
Do you have all the censuses (except 1871) for all the families?

Brenda

Brenda Report 26 Jun 2011 16:04

hi patchem

I have the 1871 census for Mary Ann Colemans family-she was my great grandmother and I have traced some siblings of the George Coleman from Norfolk on the 1871 census but I cannot find George.I have just gone on to living cousins website and I have sent for Dennis Coleman's will-he died in 1866 - to see if George is mentioned'By 1871 George in Norfolk's father was dead and his stepmother Mary Coleman nee Stebbings was a lodger in Norfolk.His sister Julia who was on the 1861 census with George is living as a servant in Norwich and her daughter Gertrude is lodging with the Long family in Wymondham in Norfolk.Julia in the 1881 census is in Idle West Yorkshire where she has married a widow and his brother William is also in Idle West Yorkshire where he marries twice his first wife dying not long after they marry.I have followed all avenues I can think of but I still need proof that I have the correct George before doing any more research.
Thank you for your time
Brenda

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jun 2011 20:21

For info:
1861 England Census
Dennis Coleman
Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Coleman
Gender: Male Where born: Tacolneston, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Wymondham County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Occupation: thatcher
Registration district: Forehoe Sub-registration district: Wymondham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 64 Piece: 1222 Folio: 108 Page Number: 13

Dennis Coleman 50 Thatcher
Mary Coleman 49
Julia Coleman 15 Wymondham, Norfolk
George Coleman 13 Wymondham, Norfolk

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1222; Folio: 108; Page: 13; GSU roll: 542778.

patchem

patchem Report 26 Jun 2011 20:37

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1871 England Census
George Colman
Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Colman
Gender: Male Where born: Wicklewood, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: Bermondsey St Paul
County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 189
Piece: 627 Folio: 45 Page Number: 31

George Colman 24 9 Guys Terrace? House Painter
Mary Colman 23 Oxfordshire

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 627; Folio: 45; Page: 31; GSU roll: 818925.