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Jacky

Jacky Report 11 Feb 2008 18:39

Good Evening All..........

Hope you have had a good day, it been really nice weather here.

Rose you have your work cut out reading all that......Lol

My day has been as exciting as Nora Batty's stockings - ahh well, we all have down days.......Lol
she needs a tablet for her sussy's to keep them up!!!!!!---------did you use tablets for yours years ago Rose - or a sixpence.......ROFL

Take no notice of me - just in a funny mood........

Jacky xx

Roger the Dodger

Roger the Dodger Report 11 Feb 2008 18:11

Rose.
DROPSY (contracted from the old word hydropisy, derived from the Gr. iibpwi/i; 158wp, water, and ', appearance), the name given to a collection of simple serous fluid in all or any of the cavities of the body, or in the meshes of its tissues. Dropsy of the subcutaneous connective tissue is termed oedema when it is localized and limited in extent; when more diffuse it is termed anasarca; the term oedema is also applied to dropsies of some of the internal organs, notably to that of the lungs. Hydrocephalus signifies an accumulation of fluid within the ventricles of the brain or in the arachnoid cavity; hydrothorax, a collection of fluid in one or both pleural cavities; hydropericardium, in the pericardium; ascites, in the peritoneum; and, when anasarca is conjoined with the accumulation of fluid in one or more of the serous cavities, the dropsy is said to be general (see also Pathology).

Dropsy (excluding "epidemic dropsy," for which see below) is essentially a symptom and not a specific disease, and is merely an exaggeration of a certain state of health. Fluid, known as lymph, is continually passing through the capillary walls into the tissues, and in health this is removed as fast as it is exuded, in one or more of three ways: part of it is used in the nutrition 1 L'Harmonie universelle (Paris, 1636-1637), t. ii. bk. 5, pp. 282287 and p. 305.

2 Plato, Crito, 54; Aristophanes, Acharnians, 865, where some musicians are in derision dubbed "bumblebee pipers." See Bagpipe; also Kathleen Schlesinger, "Researches into the Origin of the Organs of the Ancients," Intern. mus. Ges. vol. ii. (1901), Sammelband ii. pp. 188-202.

of the tissues, part is returned to the general circulation by the veins, and part by the lymphatics. Any accumulation constitutes dropsy and is a sign of disease, though not a disease in itself. The serous effusions due to inflammation are not included under the term dropsy. A dropsical fluid varies considerably in composition according to its position in the body, but varies only slightly according to the disease which has given rise to it. Its specific gravity ranges between io08 and 1018; the mineral salts present are the same and in about the same proportion as those of blood, nor do they vary with the position of the exudation. The quantity of albumin, however, depends much on the position of the fluid, and slightly on the underlying disease. In oedema the fluid contains only traces, whereas a pleural or peritoneal effusion is always highly albuminous. Also an effusion due to heart disease contains more albumin than one due to kidney disease. In appearance it may be colourless, greenish or reddish from the presence of blood pigment, or yellowish from the presence of bile pigment; transparent or opalescent or milky from the presence of fatty matter derived from the chyle. The membrane from which the dropsical fluid escapes is healthy, or at least not inflamed, and only somewhat sodden by long contact with the fluid - the morbid condition on which the transudation depends lying elsewhere.

The simplest cause of dropsy is purely mechanical, blood pressure being raised beyond a certain point owing to venous obstruction. This may be due to thrombosis of a vein as in phlegmasia dolens (white leg), retardation of venous circulation as in varicose veins, or obstruction of a vein due to the pressure of an aneurism or tumour. Cardiac and renal dropsy are more complicated in origin, but cardiac dropsy is probably due to diminished absorption, and renal dropsy, when unassociated with heart failure, to increased exudation. But the starting point of acute renal dropsy, of the dropsy sometimes occurring in diabetes, and that of chlorosis is the toxic condition of the blood. For accounts of the various local dropsies see Hydrocephalus; AscITES; Liver, &c.; general dropsy, or dropsy which depends on causes acting on the system at large, is due chiefly to diseases of the heart, kidneys or lungs, occasionally on lardaceous disease, more rarely still on diabetes or one of the anaemias.

Broadly speaking, 50% of cases of general dropsy are due to disease of the heart or aorta, and 25% to renal troubles. The natural tendency of all diseases of the heart is to transfer the blood pressure from the arteries to the veins, and, so soon as this has reached a sufficient degree, dropsy in the form of local oedema commences to appear at whatever may be the most depending part of the body - the instep and ankle in the upright position, the lower part of the back or the lungs if the patient be in bed - and this tends gradually to increase till all the cavities of the body are invaded by the serous accumulation. The diseases of the lungs which produce dropsy are those which obstruct the passage of the blood through them, such as emphysema and fibrosis,
Hope it all helps
Rog

Roger the Dodger

Roger the Dodger Report 11 Feb 2008 18:02

Rose,
Alternative Names
Lung/pulmonary congestion; Lung water


Causes, incidence, and risk factors

Pulmonary edema is usually caused by heart failure. As the heart fails, pressure in the vein going through the lungs starts to rise. As the pressure increases, fluid is pushed into the air spaces (alveoli). This fluid interrupts normal oxygen movement through the lungs, resulting in shortness of breath.

Pulmonary edema may be caused by damage directly to the lung, such as that caused by poisonous gas or severe infection. Lung damage and a build up of body fluid is also seen in kidney failure.

Pulmonary edema may also be a complication of a heart attack, leaking or narrowed heart valves (mitral or aortic valves), or any disease of the heart that either results in weakening or stiffening of the heart muscle (cardiomyopathy).



Symptoms

Shortness of breath
Difficulty breathing
Feeling of "air hunger" or "drowning"
Grunting or gurgling sounds with breathing
Wheezing
Shortness of breath with lying down -- you may need to sleep with your head propped up or use extra pillows
Cough
Anxiety
Restlessness
Excessive sweating
Pale skin
Additional symptoms that may be associated with this disease:
Nasal flaring
Coughing up blood
Inability to speak
Decrease in level of awareness


Signs and tests

The health care provider will perform a physical exam and use a stethoscope to listen to the lungs and heart. You may have:

Rapid breathing
Increased heart rate
Crackles in the lungs or abnormal heart sounds
Pale or blue skin color
Possible tests include:

Blood oxygen levels -- low in patients with pulmonary edema
Chest x-ray -- may reveal fluid in or around the lung space or an enlarged heart
Ultrasound of the heart (echocardiogram) -- may show a weak heart muscle, leaky or narrow heart valves, or fluid surrounding the heart


Treatment

Oxygen is given through a face mask or tiny plastic tubes (prongs) placed in the nose. A breathing tube may be placed into the windpipe (trachea). A breathing machine (ventilator) may be needed.

The cause of the edema should be rapidly identified and treated. For example, if a heart attack has caused the condition, the heart must be treated and stabilized.

Diuretics, such as furosemide (Lasix) may be given to help excess water pass through the urine. Medications to strengthen the heart muscle or to relieve the pressure on the heart may also be given.



Expectations (prognosis)

Although pulmonary edema can be a life-threatening condition, it can be treated. How well a patient does depends on what is causing the edema.



Complications

Some patients may need to use a breathing machine for a long time.

Rog


Rose

Rose Report 11 Feb 2008 18:02

oooooo my nana died of that in 1965

but this is hubbys side , cant see her litle girl or hubby dying of that , just have to wait and see
thanks
...............rosexx...........

Roger the Dodger

Roger the Dodger Report 11 Feb 2008 17:57

Rose, Definition of Dropsy

Dropsy: An old term for the swelling of soft tissues due to the accumulation of excess water.

In years gone by, a person might have been said to have dropsy. Today one would be more descriptive and specify the cause. Thus, the person might have edema due to congestive heart failure.

Edema is often more prominent in the lower legs and feet toward the end of the day as a result of pooling of fluid from the upright position usually maintained during the day. Upon awakening from sleeping, people can have swelling around the eyes referred to as periorbital edema.

The Middle English dropesie came through the Old French hydropsie from the Greek hydrops which in turn came from the Greek hydor meaning water.

Rog



Rose

Rose Report 11 Feb 2008 17:55

i reckoned that did look it up but confusing
................rosexx........

Roger the Dodger

Roger the Dodger Report 11 Feb 2008 17:47

Hello Rose, seems to be the most common cause of death in those old days, dont know if contagious or exactly what it means, will have to look it up for meaning.
Rog

Rose

Rose Report 11 Feb 2008 17:01

hi all
sorry that pops is feeling down
hope all works out for him .
rog did you see what marrion died of
what do you think
................rosexx........

Roger the Dodger

Roger the Dodger Report 11 Feb 2008 16:46

Hi Ho all
seen pops today, bit down cos they said they are transferring him back to the other hospital and he doesnt like it there.
never mind we will see what we see
Are you all Okee Dokee today ?
catch you later
Rog

Rose

Rose Report 11 Feb 2008 16:15

hiya all
..........rosexx.......

Rose

Rose Report 11 Feb 2008 12:10

hi all
ours dont break up for another week yet lyn

got the death cert of marion still waiting for others
she died of HEPATIC DISEASE DROPSY
looked it up they gave all different discriptions for this . with her husband and child dying just after her maybe it was infectious

cya all later
.....................rosexx............

.•:*:•.Scouser*NANNA*Lyn.•:*:•.

.•:*:•.Scouser*NANNA*Lyn.•:*:•. Report 11 Feb 2008 11:15

Morning all, how can you tell I'm off school today? Yessss and no break duty for a week either! Or snotty nosed kids coughing and sneezing all over you. Oh how I miss school!

Speak to you later,
Lyn x x x x

Rose

Rose Report 11 Feb 2008 10:53

morning all
nice and bright day today ,
hope yours is too
catch you all later
............rosexx................

Roger the Dodger

Roger the Dodger Report 10 Feb 2008 22:04

Goodnight to you all,
glad you seem to be sorted
see you tomorrow
Rog xxx

Rose

Rose Report 10 Feb 2008 21:55

goodnight from me too
sleep well all
lynn this is the year i left school
..............rosexx

Jacky

Jacky Report 10 Feb 2008 21:52

Glad you got yours sorted Rose - much better now,

Well i bid you all Goodnight.

See you tomorrow

Jacky xx

Rose

Rose Report 10 Feb 2008 21:21

hi all
ive done that too , no adverts yet , hope it works
didnt like the bugs one creepy .

really enjoyed dancing on ice , dont know how greg survived no rithym what so ever .

...................rosexx............

Jacky

Jacky Report 10 Feb 2008 20:17

Thankyou Rog...........

Just so glad to get shut of them. i also feel safer !!

Jacky xx

Roger the Dodger

Roger the Dodger Report 10 Feb 2008 20:14

Jolly good Tilly Jacky, see i am of some use sometimes, hoho
Rog

Jacky

Jacky Report 10 Feb 2008 20:06

Done that Rog..............YAY - much much better, only the static friends reunited ones now !!!!!!!

Have a good Evening All

Jacky xx