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For Pamela Forsyth PEARSALL Pearsall, Parshall, Persail: William Persale 1310 ColchCt; Thomas Persall 1560 Pat (Ch). From Pearshall (St) Short one that one!

For Pamela Forsyth OAKLY Oakley, Oakeley, Okeley, Okely: Hervey, Philip de Ocle 1199 AssSt. 1246 IpmGl; Richard de Okeley 1327 SRLei; John Okelee 1377 AssEss; Robert Okeleye 1545 SRW . From one or other of the many places of this name , or from Oakle Street (Gloc), Oakleigh (Kent), or Ockley (Surrey)

DAWE Daw, Dawe, Dawes, Daws; Dawe 1212 Fees (La). 1219 AssY; Ralph Dawe 1211 Cur (Wo), 1275 RH (D); Lovekin Dawes 1279 RH(O). Dawe is a pet-name for David which shares this common surname with OE *dawe, ME dawe 'Jack-Daw' (1432 NED)

Thank you very much, PF! Not too sure about the 'Ass' bits in the Pescod write-up! Maybe I'm descended from donkeys? LOL >*|*<

Again for Camberwell Beauty PESCOD Pescod, Pescott, Pesket: v. PEASCOD Peascod, Pescod, Pescodd, Pescud, Peasegood, Peasgood, Pescott, Peskett, Bisgood: Richard Pisecod 1221 AssWa; John, Walter Pesecod 1279 AssNB, 1332 SRCu; William Piscod, Puscod 1327, 1332 SRSx; John Pesegod (Pesecod) 1317 AssK; John Pasegude 1441 GildY. Oe peose, pise 'pea' and codd 'bag' , a peascod, peapod; probably for a seller of peas.cf. Richard pesemonger c1198 Bart.

This is for Camberwell Beauty. I will try very hard and make no typing mistakes on this one. This one is very rare. Simey; Robert Sygemay 1275 Wak (Y). OE * Sigemag 'victory-kinsman', of which this is the only known example. An addition to the late compounds of -mag, noted by von Feilitzen: Samarg (1185), Sidmag (1185) Wulfmag (1063). v. NoB 33, 87. A very rare surname.

Simey and Pescod coming up.

Thank you Camberwell Beauty. Glad you got over your drinking binge.

Tapson Not down as such but probably a derivative of the following: Tapner: Gregory le Tapiner 1272 MESO (Ha); Henry le Tapenyer 1327 SRSx. OFr tappnner 'maker of chalons and burel'. v. BURREL CHALLENER Tapp, Tappe: John Roger Tappe 1194 P (Do), 1247 AssBeds, 1327 SRWo.OE *Tappa unrecorded, but the first element of Taplow (Bucks), Tapners (Kent) Tappington (Kent) and Tapton (Derby) v. TAPPIN Tapper: Ulfuine Teperesune c 1095 Bury (Sf); John Robert le Tapper 12779 RH (C), 1332 SRLa. OE tappere 'tapper ' (of casks), beer-seller, tavern-keeper. Tapping, Tappin; Ralph Geoffrey Tapping 1220, 1235 Fees (Berks, Nth); Robert Tapping, Tepping1221 AssWa. OE * Tapping 'son of Tappa'. v TAPP Tapster; (i) Elisota Tapster 1379 NottBR; Alicia Tapstere 1384 AssWa OE tappestere, feminine of tappere, a woman who sells ale, hostess. cf TAPPER. (ii) Ralph Thomas le Tapicer 1282 AD II (Mx), 1306 LoCt. AFr tapiiicer 'maker of figured cloth or tapestry' (c1386 NED) As tapiner became tapner. so tapicer probably became tapser and, with intrusive t, tapster. Tapton; Henry de Taoton 1342 PN WRY i 20l; John Tapton 1451 William Tapton 1467 IpmNt. From Tapton (Db), or Tapton Hall in Sheffield (WRY) Thats the end of Ta's. Suggest Tappern is a derivitive of the above as well.

Re abbreviations - These are from the list in the Oxford English Dictionary - ODa = Old Danish OE = Old English OF(r) = Old French OFris = Old Frisian OHG = Old High German OIr = Old Irish OLG = Old Low German ON = Old Norse ONF = Old Northern French OPr = Old Provencal OS = Old Saxon OSl = Old Slavonic OSp = Old Spanish OT = Old Teutonic ME = Middle English (1200-1500) MG = Middle German Med.L = Medieval Latin MHG = Middle High German MIt = Middle Italian MLG = Middle Low German MSw = Middle Swedish NF = North Frisian Norw = Norweginan AF = Anglo-French Amer = American Anglo-Ind = Anglo-Indian Arab = Arabic Aram = Aramaic Ass = Assyrian Austra = Australian Boh = Bohemian Braz = Brazilian Bret = Breton Bulg = Bulgarian Burm = Burmese Byz = Byzantine Chin = Chinese Corn = Cornish Copt = Coptic Cym = Cymric (Welsh) Da = Danish F = French Fl = Flemish Frank = Frankish Fr = Frisian G = German Gael = Gaelic Gk = Greek Heb = Hebrew Hind = Hindi Hung = Hungarian Icel = Icelandic Ind = Indian Ir = Irish It = Italian Jap = Japanese Lat = Latin MDu = Middle Dutch Pers = Persian Pg/Port = Portuguese Pol = Polish Russ = Russian Sax = Saxon Scand = Scandinavian Scot = Scottish Teut = Teutonic Turk = Turkish WFlem = West Flemish

Tapson and Tappern next

COOTES Coot, Coote, Cootes, Coots: Reginald , John Cote 1201 P (L), 1219 AssY; William Le Coot 1327 SRC ME cote,coote a coot (c1300 MED), originally the name of various swimming or diving birds, especially the Guillemot, later restricted to the Bald Coot, whose appearance and traditional stupidity (' as bald (or as stupid) as a coot') would readily give rise to a nickname. 'The mad coote, With a balde face to toot' (a 1529 Skelton) I like tjis one.

Back again - only pizza and a cup of tea for lunch. Anybody else eat their wives left over pizza crusts - I do!!!!! Next surname coming up Cootes

thanks for the offer could you please look up (if thats ok) Headington Bagley Maughan thanks once again Julia

Going for lunch now but never fear will work my way down through the list. I am learning and it stops me wasting my time. Be back soon.

Dale Dale, Dales, Daile: Ralph de la Dale 1275 RH (Sf); William en le Dale 1318 ShefA (Y); John atte Dale 1327 SRSx; Nicholas Daile 1481 FrY. 'Dweller in the dalke', OE dael.

PF, The world 'silva' in Latin means 'woods', so 'Silvatacus' as a name would mean someone who was born or lived in, or near, woods. >*|*<

The abbreviations look like other sources of info the writer/ editor is referring to. Is there a list at the beginning of the book, before the listings start? please could you look up Caiger, Bramwell or Pickard, when you get a chance? xx Jen

Savage Savage, Savaage, Savege , Savidge, Sauvage, Salvage, Salvidge: Edric Saluage 1066 DB (He); Eridicus cognomento Silvaticus 1067 OEByn; John Salvage 1166 P (Nf); William le Salvage 1194 Cur (sa); Robert le Sauuage 1198 FF (Sr); Ralph le Savage 1268 FFSf. OFr salkvage, sauvage, Lat silvaticus, in poular latin salvaticus; 'savage, wilkd' 9a 1300 NED) Wish I were a classical scholar. Don't worry all you out there I shall persevere.

hehe was going to ask aboutthe abbreviations! Anyone know?