General Chat

For Mandy WALDRON Waldram, Waldren, Waldron, Waldrum, Waleran, Werond: Johannes filius Waleranni 1086 DB (Ess); Waleran t Stephen DC(L); Walran Hy 2 ib (Lei); Walerannus, Galerannus Walerandus de Crikelade 1182, 1191, 1200 Oseny (O); John Walaram, Walerand 1196-8, 1218-20 Clerkenwell (Lo); Richard Walram 1262 FFEss; Robert Waldrond 1275 SRWo; Matilda Walrand 1275 RH(W); Roysa Waldraunt 1297 MinAcctCo; William Gal;eram 1332 SRSx. OG Walaram, Waleran, OFf Galerant(f). v. also Wallraven. Not too specific on an origin, but I hope it makes sence. Please use Camberwell Beauty's list of abbreviations. (Why is the word abbrevation so long?)

Hello, would you mind looking up Field please : )

For Mandy BEAMENT Beaumont, Beaument, Beumant, Beaman, Beamand, Beament, Beamont, Beauman, Bemand, Belmont, Bemment: Rogerius de Belmont 1086 DB (Do, Gi); Ralph de Belmunt 1187 P (O); John Bemund 1274 RH (Sf); Godfrey de Beumund 1275 RH (Nf); William Beamound, Beumon 1279 RH (O); John Bomund 1300 FFSf; Robert Beaumond 13322 SRSx; Laurence Beamond 1369 LLB G; Wedow Beament Mrs. Beamonte 1568 SRSf. Mrs. Bement, Peter Beuman, Widow Bomant 1674 HTSf. frome one of the five places in Normandy names Beaumont. The DB family came from Beaumont-le-Roger (Eure)

Thank you very much, sorry it's a bit late. M.

Lovely! Thanks very much indeed Pilgrim. Hope the golf stuff goes well for you. xx Jen

Woodcock and Burton please

Yuletide Will get around to you Pse keep an eye on the thread

Will do Karin Pse keep an eye on the thread.

For Jen PICKARD Pickard: (i) Hugh le Pycard 1276 AssSt; John Pikart 1279 RH (Hu); Michael le Pykard 1298 LLBA; John Picard 1292 FFSf. 'The Picard', a man from Picardy. (ii) Paganus filius Pichardi 1160 P (Ha); Picardus filius Pagani 1208 Cur (Ha) ; Paganus, William Pichard 1169 P (Ha); 1198 FF (Sa); John Pickard (Pikard) 1230 P (Ha). A French personal-name, compounded of Pic (cf. PICKETT) and -hard. On the analogy of Richard, this would become both Pickard and Pitchard, the latter, apparently, no longer surviving, but one origin of PITCHER.

For Jen BRAMWELL Not in as such Jen. I wonder though whether it could be derivitive of the following somewhere along the line. Bramah, Bramald, Bramall, Brmalt, Brameld, Bramhall, Brammall Brammer: Robert de Bramhal 1221 AssWo; Thomas Bramall 1543, 1566 ShefA. 'Dweller by the broom-coverednook', OE brom,shortened to bram, and heal, as in Bramhall (Ches). In Sheffield, where there is a Bramall Lane, Bramah, Bramall and Brammer are common. or Bramble, Brambles, Brambell: Probably a nickname for someone as prickly as a bramble rather than for 'dweller among the brambles'

For Jen CAIGER Caiger, Cager: William, Geoffrey Cager 1319, 1327 SR (Ess). OFr cagier 'a maker or seller og cages' or equivalent to atte Cage above.* *The above was CAGE - dweller near or keeper of the cage. Cage was used of ' a prison for petty malefactors'

Thank you very much Regards Pam

Jen, Mandy, and Julia. Tomorrow evening some time. Doing a Father Xmas tomorrow for the Chilworth Golf Club Ladies Christmas Lunch. They all have to buy a present worth so much and I put them in my bag and deliver. Good fun. I turn up in the Greekeepers Cushman.

Please can you take a look for Lant and Akroyd? Thanks Jacquie

For Morfydd Jory Jory, Jorey,: Ralph Jory 1221 Cur (Lei); William Jory 1275 RH (W); John Jory 1325 FFK. A diminutive of Jore, the nothern French form of George.

For Morfydd Jackson Jackson, Jacson, Jagson, Jaxon: Adam Jackessone 1327 SRSf; Adam Jakson 1353 AssSt; John Jaceson 1438 ADi(L). 'son of Jack'

For Morfydd DYER Dyer, Dyers: Henry le Deghar 1260 MESO (So); Robert le Deyare 1275 SR Wo; Alexander Dyghere 1296 SR Sx; Henry le Dyer 1327 SRDb. OE deagere 'Dyer'.

To Morfydd Durbin Not in as such but may have come from Durden,Durdin: William Roger Duredent 1148-54 Bec (Sx) 1176 P (St); William Durdent 1272 FFSt; Nicholas Durdon 1428 FAAA9W0. OFr dur, dent 'hard-tooth'. But probably not!

For Morfydd BELCHER Belcher, Belsher, Belshaw, Beusher, Beeushaw, Bewshire, Bewshaw, Bewshea, Beaushaw, Bowsher: Thomas Belcher 1219 AssY; Richard Belcher 1274 RH (Gi); Alexander Belcher 1453 FFEss; Margaret Bewcher 1530 SIA (Sf) William Bewshawe 1539 FrY; Henry Bowschere 1575 Oxon; Henry Belshire 1662 HTEss, OFr bel(e), beu and chiere, originally 'fair faced', later 'fair look', one of a cheerful, pleasant demeanour. The surname was oftenconfused with BEAUSIRE, and in York Plays is used as a term of address, often derogatory: Herod addresses a messenger, 'Bewcher! wele ye be', and when Annas orders a boy who has been bound to be brought in, the soldier announces , 'Lo, here is the belschere broght that ye bad bring', cf. GOACHER, GOODFAR.

For Pamela Forsyth LEADBEATER Leadbeater, Leadbeatter, Leadbetter, Leadbitter, Ledbetter, Lidbetter: Ingald 'Leadbater', 1221AssWa; Walter Ledbeter, ie Ledbetere 1256 AssWa; Walter Ledbetter 1645 YWills; Mr Leadbutter 1674 HTSf. OE Lead and beatere ' a worker in lead'