General Chat

To Lyn - Scrivener tomorrow. To Susan, Kimberly, June Jingle, Chicken chaser and Nardia please keep watching the thread. I can't find my glasses at this moment and the print in the library book is too small for me to read without them. I don't know where I've left them - senior moment!!!!! But do not fear - your name will appear.

hi pilgrim father, please could you look up...GRIMSHAW, and BAXENDALE. i would be greatfull. regards chicken.

HI pilgrim Many thanks for that, can you please let me know about the surname Scrivener.... Thanks Lyn x.

hi, please could you look up caplin/caplen for me please many thanks

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For Lyn WALLACE Wallis, Wallice, Walles, Wallace, Wallas: Osbert Waleis 1156-85 Seals (Wa); Robert Waliscus, Waleis 1166, 1169 P (Nf); Eodo le Waleis c1200 DC (L); Richard le Waleis, le Walles 1225, 1244 Oseny (O); Maddock le Waleys 1283 AssSt; Alice Wals 1379 PTY; William Wallis 1463 LLB L. AFr Waleis, Walais 'Welshman, Celt'. In the borders counties of Warwicks, Worc and Staffs, we clearly have references to Welshmen. In the Norfolk and Lincs , the Celts were probably Bretons, many of whom settled in the Eastern counties after the Conquest. Wallace is a Scottish form. Here it means a Briton of the kingdom of Strathclyde where we find Richard Walensis or Waleis between 1165 and 1173. Wallace is found in 1432 and Wallas in 1497 (Black)

For Lyn BONIFACE Boniface, Bonifas, Bonniface: Bonefacius uinitor 1193 P (Y); Bonifacius 1208 Cur (Ha); Tomas Boniface 1190 P (Y); Alis Boneface 1200 P (Ha). Contrary to the common opinion this name derives not from Latin bonifacius 'well-doer', but from bonfatius, from the bonum 'good' and fatum 'fate'. The change to Bonifacius was due to the pronunciation and from this was deduced a false etymology, Bonifatius iis frequent on Latin inscriptions. Bonifacius is found only twice and these late (Theaurus). In Latin the name was given chiefly to ecclesiastics, rarely to men of the lower orders. In ME the form was Boniface, but the name was never very popular in England, though it had enough vitality to produce a surname.

For Ann Libby SEARLE Searl, Searle, Searles, Searls, Serrel: Serlo 1066 DB (Ess); Serlo le Flemyng c1150 Gilb(L); Serle Gotokirke 1279 RH(C); Serill' Pinder 1379 PTY; Adam Hugo Serle 1226 FFBk, 1250 Fees (Do); Hugh Sereleson 1320 Parlwrits (Y); William Serell' 1379 PTY. OG Sarilo, Serilo (Romance) Serlo, probably related to OE searu 'armour', cognate with ON Sqrli v SARL. The name was frequent in Normandy and common in England after the Conquest.

Hi, Is Thrussell or Fensom in there? Thanks for your help, Lucia :-)

Pilgrim could you look for Hennelly Moran Lynch Thank,s Moon Hare.

For Ann Libby HIND Hind, Hinde, Hindes, Hynd, Hynds: Cristiana, Henry Hynde 1285 Ass(Ess), 1332 SRSy. OE hind 'female of the deer', perhaps 'timid as a hindd'. Late examples may be fromHine, with excrescent d (1520 NED)

For Ann Libby MAGUIRE Not listed but will investigate further.

For Ann Libby WILLEY Origin - London name - derivitive a Pug dog - usually seen around Walford . Sorry - couldn't resist that! Willey, Willy, Wyllie, Wylly: Willy de Dalton, John son of Willey 1300 Misc.(La); Henry Willy 1274 RH (Sa); William Wylli 1297 MinAcctCo;nRoger Willy 1360 IpmW. A pet-form of Will, a short form of William. Sometimes for WILEY

for JinglebellsBabs BRADDY Not in as such. Without going into previous holders of the name I shall just give the meaning. If you require more pse let me know. Bradle,Brady, Broady: Clearly a nickname, 'broad eye', OE brad, eagr; also 'dweller by the broad Island' (OE eg), or the broad enclosure (OE 9) (ge) haeg. Bradie is Scottish. cf. BROAD

More tomorrow - it's 'I'm a celebrity' now

For JinglebellsBabs REVILL Revel, Revell, Revill, Reville Reavell: Revel de Tetencia Hy 2 DC (L); Paganus revellus 1130 P (Herts); Robert , Hugh Revel 1177, 1196 P (Ess. Nth); Richard Revel(L), Rivel(l) 1210 Cur (So). OFr revel 'pride, rebellion, sport', from reveler 'to rebel'. The font-name Revel was common in OFr and ME and may actually be from Lat. rebellus. The surname is also metonymic for Reveler which survives.

For JinglebellsBabs BAKER Baker, Baiker, Bavker: William le Bakere 1177 P (Nf); Robert Bakere 1246 AssLa; Walter le Backere1280 MESO (Ha) OE bacere 'baker', cf BAXTER

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Hi pilgrim could you look up major, if you are still doing the names. thanks kim.

Thank you for the lookup. Jacquie