General Chat

For Lucia THRUSSEL Throssell, Thrussell, Thrustle: Roger Throsle 1282 AssCh; Richard Throstel 1297 SRY. OE pros(t)le 'throstle'. A nickname from the bird.

For Lucia FENSOM Not in as such. Probably derived from Fenn, Venn. From Fen (Lincs), one of the Devon places called Venn, or from residence near a marsh.

For Chicken Chaser GRIMSHAW ( could not help but think of Norman Wisdom films when typing this surname. O. K. I know it's Grimsdale!!!!) Grimshaw: Richard de Grymeschagh, de Grymeschawe 13th WhC, 1284 AssLa; Henry de Grimeshagh 1400 IpmLa. From Grimshaw (Lancs)

For Chicken Chaser BAXENDALE - very short one this Baxendale, Baxendall, Bassinder: From Baxenden (La).

Thanks very much for the lookup, Lucia :-)

Would you be so kind as to look up the surnames of Warin and Udall please. Louise

For Nardia CAPLIN/CAPLEN Chaplain, Chaplin, Chapling, Chaperlin, Caplan, Caplen, Caplin, Capelen, capelin, Capeling, Kaplan, Kaplin: William Capelein 1203 Cur (Ha); Thomas le Chapelyn 1241 FFC; Nicholas le Chapelain 1260 AssC. ONFr capelain, OFr chapelain 'priest, clergyman, chantry-priest'

For Helen DURMAN Dearman, Dorman, Durman: Derman 1066 DB (Wa); Dermannus clanewatere c1130 AC (Lo); William , Robert Derman 1201 Cur (Y), 1300 LoCt OE Deormann from OE Deor (v. DEAR) and mann.

To all A reminder to you all that an abbreviations list have been very kindly added by Camberwell Beauty. Please refer back in this thread to find if you require them.

Thank you very much Helenx

(Pilgrim Father - you'll be sorry you invited me to add comments, lol!) GRIMSHAW I have this name in my tree. It has two roots that I have found, the first being from the Manor of Grimshaw in Lancs.(Records back to 1137, and mentioned in Domesday Book) The second is more interesting. It is a derivation of the word 'Scrimgeour' (pronounced Scrimshaw). A scrimgeour was one who carved in bone, usually whale or narwal bone. Olde Crone

Hello! Olde Crone Always willing to learn. Thanks for the interest.

HI. Would you mind looking up Elson and Curtis please. Thanks deb :-)

For Keeley HAYES Hay, Haye, Hayes, Hays, Hey, Heyes , Heighes: (I) Richard de Hay 1170 P (L); Robert de la Hay 1170 P (L); Robert de la Haie 1185Templars (Herts); Roger del Heys 1275 RH (Nf); William de Hayes ib. (Nth); Henry del Haye, Stephenin the Haye 1275 SRWo; Thomas atte Heye 1327 SRSo. “Dweller by the enclosure” (OE (ge) hag), as at Hay (Hereford) or Hayes (Devon, Dorset). In ME hay also meant “forest fenced off for hunting”. v. HIGHE. O’HEA. (ii) Wiillemus filius Hai 1168 P (Bk); Ricardus filius Haye 1205 Cur (Nf), Robert, Roger Hai 1150 Eynsham (O), 1163-6 Seals (Sx). There is recorded in a dubious charter of 704 an OE Haeha or Heaha which Redin derives from OE heah “high”. Compounds withHeah-, such as Heahbeorht. Heahstan, etc. were common in OE and two otherwise unrecorded compounds *Heahsige and *Heahhild (f) suggest that the first theme long remained popular; Hiechsi 1066 Winton (Ha), Walter filius Hehilde 1201 Cur(L). A short form of these names , Heah(a), may well have existed in OE and may survive in the post-Conquest Hai. V HAYCOCK. (iii) Robert le Hay, le Hay 1275 RH (Nf, Bk); Roger le Hay ib. (Sx). OE heah “high, tall” cf. “He was a strong man and hey” (c1300 NED) v. HIGHE

For Louis WARIN Wareing,Waring,Warin,Warring, Wearing, Wharin, FitzWarin: Robertus filius Warini (Warin) 1086 DB (Ess); Warinus filius Toruerdi 1142 NthCh (L); Wilelmus filius Warin, Gwarrini Hy 2 DC (L); Robert Gilbert Warin’ 1198 Cur (Y), c1209 Fees(Du); JohnWarying 1275 SRWo; Roger Warenge 1478 LLB L; John Warren alias Warying 1512 Oxon; William Wairin 1665 Rothwell PR(Y), Thomas Warring 1674 HTSf. Afr Warin, Ofr Guarin, Guerin, from OG Warin, a very common Norman personal name. This has been confused with WARREN.

For Louis UDAL Yewdall,Yeudall,Yewdale, Youdale, Youdle, Udal, Udale, Udall, Udell: Alice de Yowdall 1379 PTY; John Yowdall 1546 LP (Cu); Thomas Vdall 1662-4 HTDo. From Yewdale(La).

Oppps Pilgrim, Thank you, sorry didnt get back sooner just realised I had more names;; Keep up the good work x x x Babs

For Deb Elson ELSON Elson: Richard Elson 1379 PTY; William Elson 1524 SRSf. From Elson (Ha, Sa), or perhaps[s a late form of Elston. Elston, Elstone, Ellston: (I) Galfridus filius Elston 1193 P (Nf); Warinus filius Elstani 1230 P(Nb); Henry Elstan 1279 RH (O); John Elston 1411 FrY, OE *Ealdstan or Ealhstan cf. ALLSTAN. (ii) William de Ethelistone 1332 SRLa. From Elston (Notts, Lancs, Wilts)

For Chicken Chaser See what Olde Crone has added for GRIMSHAW

Must go now 'I'm a Celebrity' is on. Do your CURTIS later Deb.