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For Lyn WALLACE Wallis, Wallice, Walles, Wallace, Wallas: Osbert Waleis 1156-85 Seals (Wa); Robert Waliscus, Waleis 1166, 1169 P (Nf); Eodo le Waleis c1200 DC (L); Richard le Waleis, le Walles 1225, 1244 Oseny (O); Maddock le Waleys 1283 AssSt; Alice Wals 1379 PTY; William Wallis 1463 LLB L. AFr Waleis, Walais 'Welshman, Celt'. In the borders counties of Warwicks, Worc and Staffs, we clearly have references to Welshmen. In the Norfolk and Lincs , the Celts were probably Bretons, many of whom settled in the Eastern counties after the Conquest. Wallace is a Scottish form. Here it means a Briton of the kingdom of Strathclyde where we find Richard Walensis or Waleis between 1165 and 1173. Wallace is found in 1432 and Wallas in 1497 (Black)

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hi, please could you look up caplin/caplen for me please many thanks

HI pilgrim Many thanks for that, can you please let me know about the surname Scrivener.... Thanks Lyn x.

hi pilgrim father, please could you look up...GRIMSHAW, and BAXENDALE. i would be greatfull. regards chicken.

To Lyn - Scrivener tomorrow. To Susan, Kimberly, June Jingle, Chicken chaser and Nardia please keep watching the thread. I can't find my glasses at this moment and the print in the library book is too small for me to read without them. I don't know where I've left them - senior moment!!!!! But do not fear - your name will appear.

Pilgrim Father Inmteresting thread, and glad to see you are using a reputable work for this! (But how did you manage to borrow it, its in the reference section of my library and not for circulation?) As to you query re 'reflects the missing letter in the genetive ending' - The genetive (possessive) ending to a word is, for instance 'This is Will's house'. We now use an apostrophe to signify the missing letter 'i' because in old english it would have been written 'This is Willis house', meaing 'The house of Will' There! Clear as mud, eh? Incidentally, names which sound like a place, usually ARE - the surname Headington probably originates from the Manor of Headington, back in the days when peasants didnt have a surname, other than that of the Manor to which they belonged. Similar place name type surnames usually trace back to a Manor. Olde Crone

For Lyn SCRIVENER Scriven, Scrivens, Scrivins, Scrivings: Richard le Scrivein 1208-13 Fees (O); Gervase le Esscriuen 1278 AssSo; Richard Scrivin son of Norman Scrivin 1294 AD vi (K). OFr escriivain, escrivein 'writer', one who writes and copies books, manuscripts , etc; also a clerk (a 1300NED) Scrivener, Scrivenor: Simon Scruiner 1218-22 StP (Lo); Kemma Scriuener 1311 ColchCt. A derivative of scrivain with the same meaning as SCRIVEN.

For Olde Crone Holden How very interesting. Lean towards the Science side of life myself and have neglected the Arts - much to my regret. If you have more comments to add at any time I feel sure that all 'requesters' would be pleased - not to mention myself. Thanks! The book is in Paperback form and is ' Oxford Dictionary of English Surnames'. I am the second borrower. Reaney & Wilson ISBN 0-19-280663-7 Price £10.95 Visit www(.)askoxford(.)com/shopline/ebooks for details. Publishers Oxford University Press.

For Susan BACKHOUSE Backhouse,Baccas, Bacchus, Bachus, Backus: Walter de Bakhous 1306 LLB E; Richard de Bukhous 1332 SRLa; Thomas Bachous 1334 LLB E; Charles Baccus 1544 AD v (Y); Edward Bacchus 1725 DKR 41(Beds). 'One employed at a bakery', from OE* bachas 'bakery,bakehouse' (a 1300 MED)

For Kimberly MAJOR This one jumps about a bit Mauger, Mager, Mayger, Major: Hugo filius Malgeri 1086 DB (Ess.); Drogo filius Matelgerii ib. (D); Malger filius Gilleberti 1150-60 DC (Nt) Maugerus episcopus 1212 Fees (Wo); John Mauger, Malger 1250 Fees (So); 1272 AssSo; Thomas Mauger' Malger 'council-spear'. Tolleshunt Major (Essex) owes its attribute to the DB Malger (Tolshunt Major (480 Pat).

For June Jingle HENNELLY Not down as such but I suspect that it as a derivative of names set out below. You takes your choice, Henley, Henly: Gilbert de Henlega 1181 P (Wo); Robert de Henlay 1270 IpmY; William Henely 1392 IpmNt. From Henley (Oxon, Salop,Som, Suffolk, Surrey, Warwicks) Henlow: Hugh de Henlawe 1201 Cur. From Henlow (Beds) Henman: William Henman 1327 SRSo; Richard Heneman 1327 SRSf. Probably 'man in charge of the hens' Henn: (i) Henna Curi 1192 (Lo); Johannes filius Hen 1275 RH (Nt); Euerard Henne 1202 P (L). Henn, like Hann, was a pet-name for Henry; cf HENKIN, Henna is the corresponding feminine. Forssner cites Henrica (without date). (ii) Colemannus, Thomas le Hen 1275 RH (Sf). A nickname from the hen. Henner, Hennah: William de Henner 1279 RH (C); Henry de Henouere Ed I DbCH; Henry Henner 1327 SRWo. From Hennor (Do) or Heanor (Db) Hennessey, Hennessy, Hennesy, Henesy: Irish 'descendant of Aonghus' (one-choice)

For June Jingle MORAN Moram, Moreham, Moran, Morron, Morum: (i) Hugh de Monte Virun 1130 P (Ess); Richard de Muuvirun 1197 FFEss; Richard de Mouirun 1275 SRWo ; Lewis Moran 1378 ColchCt. From some, as yet unidentified French place. cf. Moreham Hall in Frating (Ess) john de Mouviron 1331 (ii) In Scotland from Morham (East Lothian)

For June Jingle LYNCH Linch, Lince, Linck, Link, Lynch: Geoffrey Linch 1228 FFSf; Gilbert de la Lynche 1275 SRWo; Robert de Bynithelinche 1278 AssSo; Robert Lincke 1279 RH (C); Simon atte Lynke 1296 SRSx; Robert atte Linch 1327 ib. 'Dweller by the hill' (OE hlinc). Lynch may be Ir Loingseachain ' descendant of Loingseach' (sailor)

Please would you at the surname DURMAN Many thanks helenx

Pilgrim all this info thankyou ! ever so much Take care Moon Harexx

Good Morning Pilgrim Many thanks for that great lot of info. Regards Lyn x.

Thankyou for the Backhouse lookup Susan

im so sorry, i forgot to say thank you for doing that for me, the Cootes one was great! Many thanks xx

hey could you please look up Hayes Thank you