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This is for Camberwell Beauty. I will try very hard and make no typing mistakes on this one. This one is very rare. Simey; Robert Sygemay 1275 Wak (Y). OE * Sigemag 'victory-kinsman', of which this is the only known example. An addition to the late compounds of -mag, noted by von Feilitzen: Samarg (1185), Sidmag (1185) Wulfmag (1063). v. NoB 33, 87. A very rare surname.

Again for Camberwell Beauty PESCOD Pescod, Pescott, Pesket: v. PEASCOD Peascod, Pescod, Pescodd, Pescud, Peasegood, Peasgood, Pescott, Peskett, Bisgood: Richard Pisecod 1221 AssWa; John, Walter Pesecod 1279 AssNB, 1332 SRCu; William Piscod, Puscod 1327, 1332 SRSx; John Pesegod (Pesecod) 1317 AssK; John Pasegude 1441 GildY. Oe peose, pise 'pea' and codd 'bag' , a peascod, peapod; probably for a seller of peas.cf. Richard pesemonger c1198 Bart.

Thank you very much, PF! Not too sure about the 'Ass' bits in the Pescod write-up! Maybe I'm descended from donkeys? LOL >*|*<

DAWE Daw, Dawe, Dawes, Daws; Dawe 1212 Fees (La). 1219 AssY; Ralph Dawe 1211 Cur (Wo), 1275 RH (D); Lovekin Dawes 1279 RH(O). Dawe is a pet-name for David which shares this common surname with OE *dawe, ME dawe 'Jack-Daw' (1432 NED)

For Pamela Forsyth OAKLY Oakley, Oakeley, Okeley, Okely: Hervey, Philip de Ocle 1199 AssSt. 1246 IpmGl; Richard de Okeley 1327 SRLei; John Okelee 1377 AssEss; Robert Okeleye 1545 SRW . From one or other of the many places of this name , or from Oakle Street (Gloc), Oakleigh (Kent), or Ockley (Surrey)

For Pamela Forsyth PEARSALL Pearsall, Parshall, Persail: William Persale 1310 ColchCt; Thomas Persall 1560 Pat (Ch). From Pearshall (St) Short one that one!

For Pamela Forsyth LEADBEATER Leadbeater, Leadbeatter, Leadbetter, Leadbitter, Ledbetter, Lidbetter: Ingald 'Leadbater', 1221AssWa; Walter Ledbeter, ie Ledbetere 1256 AssWa; Walter Ledbetter 1645 YWills; Mr Leadbutter 1674 HTSf. OE Lead and beatere ' a worker in lead'

For Morfydd BELCHER Belcher, Belsher, Belshaw, Beusher, Beeushaw, Bewshire, Bewshaw, Bewshea, Beaushaw, Bowsher: Thomas Belcher 1219 AssY; Richard Belcher 1274 RH (Gi); Alexander Belcher 1453 FFEss; Margaret Bewcher 1530 SIA (Sf) William Bewshawe 1539 FrY; Henry Bowschere 1575 Oxon; Henry Belshire 1662 HTEss, OFr bel(e), beu and chiere, originally 'fair faced', later 'fair look', one of a cheerful, pleasant demeanour. The surname was oftenconfused with BEAUSIRE, and in York Plays is used as a term of address, often derogatory: Herod addresses a messenger, 'Bewcher! wele ye be', and when Annas orders a boy who has been bound to be brought in, the soldier announces , 'Lo, here is the belschere broght that ye bad bring', cf. GOACHER, GOODFAR.

To Morfydd Durbin Not in as such but may have come from Durden,Durdin: William Roger Duredent 1148-54 Bec (Sx) 1176 P (St); William Durdent 1272 FFSt; Nicholas Durdon 1428 FAAA9W0. OFr dur, dent 'hard-tooth'. But probably not!

For Morfydd DYER Dyer, Dyers: Henry le Deghar 1260 MESO (So); Robert le Deyare 1275 SR Wo; Alexander Dyghere 1296 SR Sx; Henry le Dyer 1327 SRDb. OE deagere 'Dyer'.

For Morfydd Jackson Jackson, Jacson, Jagson, Jaxon: Adam Jackessone 1327 SRSf; Adam Jakson 1353 AssSt; John Jaceson 1438 ADi(L). 'son of Jack'

For Morfydd Jory Jory, Jorey,: Ralph Jory 1221 Cur (Lei); William Jory 1275 RH (W); John Jory 1325 FFK. A diminutive of Jore, the nothern French form of George.

Please can you take a look for Lant and Akroyd? Thanks Jacquie

Jen, Mandy, and Julia. Tomorrow evening some time. Doing a Father Xmas tomorrow for the Chilworth Golf Club Ladies Christmas Lunch. They all have to buy a present worth so much and I put them in my bag and deliver. Good fun. I turn up in the Greekeepers Cushman.

Thank you very much Regards Pam

For Jen CAIGER Caiger, Cager: William, Geoffrey Cager 1319, 1327 SR (Ess). OFr cagier 'a maker or seller og cages' or equivalent to atte Cage above.* *The above was CAGE - dweller near or keeper of the cage. Cage was used of ' a prison for petty malefactors'

For Jen BRAMWELL Not in as such Jen. I wonder though whether it could be derivitive of the following somewhere along the line. Bramah, Bramald, Bramall, Brmalt, Brameld, Bramhall, Brammall Brammer: Robert de Bramhal 1221 AssWo; Thomas Bramall 1543, 1566 ShefA. 'Dweller by the broom-coverednook', OE brom,shortened to bram, and heal, as in Bramhall (Ches). In Sheffield, where there is a Bramall Lane, Bramah, Bramall and Brammer are common. or Bramble, Brambles, Brambell: Probably a nickname for someone as prickly as a bramble rather than for 'dweller among the brambles'

For Jen PICKARD Pickard: (i) Hugh le Pycard 1276 AssSt; John Pikart 1279 RH (Hu); Michael le Pykard 1298 LLBA; John Picard 1292 FFSf. 'The Picard', a man from Picardy. (ii) Paganus filius Pichardi 1160 P (Ha); Picardus filius Pagani 1208 Cur (Ha) ; Paganus, William Pichard 1169 P (Ha); 1198 FF (Sa); John Pickard (Pikard) 1230 P (Ha). A French personal-name, compounded of Pic (cf. PICKETT) and -hard. On the analogy of Richard, this would become both Pickard and Pitchard, the latter, apparently, no longer surviving, but one origin of PITCHER.

Will do Karin Pse keep an eye on the thread.

Yuletide Will get around to you Pse keep an eye on the thread