General Chat

Louise Who wrote Doris Stokes biography? Mau

Going off the topic Pat.but where abouts is St. Thomas Moore school? Mau

Pat I know a child at the school, and have taken him there seems really nice, hope they get in. Louise, I didn't like anything about the show, she was very vague, and what messages she had could have been for anyone, was a bit like....Who has a washing machine that is on the blink, and of course there was someone there with a washing machine on the blink, once she got the person she then went through a list of names as to who was coming through until she got a name that fitted. The thing I hated was that a couple followed her around, who had lost a daughter in an accident, she said her daughter had sent them flowers, then went on to say that all children including those who were never born i.e miscarriages, were in around and they grew up like they would on earth, didn't like that at all. The only thing she got right was a case about a Doctor, in our area who was struck off, because a some of his patients died due to his lack of care, she knew a lot about a particular patient gave names instances etc, I could have done the same, the case was in th paper a week before!!!!

Lynda, House sale going great, Was a bit wobbly for a while, but its ok now. Go an appointment at St Thomas RC School on Friday for the kids. Think it will be a shock for them as the school looks very strict! Pat

I saw Doris Stokes once, at a show, was very unimpressed, in fact I found what she did quite wicked, Outside the show there were some folk from a church asking us not to go in, as it was against the church, don't know what church they were from though,

IF there is a God And IF there is an after life And IF I don't believe in either God or the afterlife...and then I get proven to be wrong when I die...then I'm sure God will forgive me and take me in anyway. Sue xx

I'd like to believe we all meet with our loved ones again when we die. When Spiritulists say they know so much, why have they not sent a 'sign' after they have died? Doris Stokes always told her audiences that she would send some sort of message, has she?? Mau

Lynda, I have to agree that if you have had some sort of personal experience you are more likely to believe in an afterlife. I am a firm believer but hubby is 'on the fence'. He doesnt have the faith that I do, but he has seen the 'proof' that I have been given and cannot ignore that either. Pat

How do you know that Louise, how does anyone know? I expect if you have had some sort of 'experience' then you may believe, but obviously not everyone has had one. It is amazing how varied everyones answers have been, those who have deep faith, and those who think afterlife is a load of twaddle, really interesting.

Most people can say what consciousness feels like. It’s being awake, aware; it’s knowing what is going on and the difference between you and me. It is thoughts and sounds, self-image and a sense of history. It’s about what it feels like to be you. Consciousness is a really tough nut for science, though, as it cannot (as distinct from electrical brain activity) be weighed, measured or detected with instruments. That is why a definition and assessment of it has, until now, been left to philosophy and religion. However, scientists, mostly biologists and neurologists and some physicists, largely as a result of break-throughs in the fields of brain-imaging and electrical monitoring, are gaining an insight and adding their weight to the debate. Researchers are steadily making progress but are still in the dark about what aspect of brain activity makes for consciousness. There is certainly no particular brain area that is active when we are conscious and inactive when we are unconscious. From studies made in Holland and others parts of the world, conducted by eminent doctors, there is evidence of consciousness (in the form of memories being laid down) when subjects are clinically brain-dead, albeit temporarily. And there seems to be no threshold of neural activity above which we are conscious, or a type of neurochemistry that accompanies consciousness. The greatest field of exploration remaining to science is that of the mind. Most scientists still claim the mind to be a brain function and purely physical but emerging scientific evidence shows it is quite clearly non-physical. It is not so fanciful to suppose, therefore, that once we fully understand the enormous power of the mind and how to harness its product, thought, we will be on the threshold of a development far more revolutionary for humanity than the industrial revolution. Some scientists claim that the problem will never be solved because our brains are not equipped to understand our own consciousness. There are others, and I like to tag along in their wake, who believes that there is a cosmic intelligence of which our consciousness may be part or from which it devolved. Could it be that Einstein ended the latter years of his career in some confusion as he too began to see this and was unable to reconcile the fact with his hoped for “theory of everything” based on mathematics? Len

Louise, it may not go anywhere, just dies?

Hi Dorothy Where do the non believers go then, and if he wants us all to go, why not just let everyone in, and why aren't we just all born to believe, sorry with all the questions Dorothy I am just inquisitive:)) Pat :)))

Where exactly, in the cosmos, would you say heaven is located? len

Lynda, Of course non believers go there too. They just get a 'surprise'! Pat

This is a very complex subject and one needs to be able to understand the laws of physics to comprehend it. I believe we all instinctively know that consciousness is separate from the physical body and can exist independently. Humans invented 'religion' to come to terms with it. However, 'religion' has been misused by man (and I do mean man, as distinct from woman) for purposes of power and manipulation and subsequently it is no longer trusted or believed in to any great degree. len

Its not for me to be judgemental Lynda. I'm as much a sinner as the next person in the street. However, for those who read the Bible, they will know that it gives the answer to your question as a very very sad no. Sad because our Saviour wants everyone to go to heaven but it must be His way not the way we would like it to be. Dorothy

Do those of you who believe, think that if they are right and there is another life, after this one, that non believers go there too? Lynda

I'm with Jayvee and Joy - a blessed assurance that this life cannot merely be the 3 score and ten but because Christ died on that cross at Calvary, those who truly believe in Him will one day have their place in heaven. Praise the Lord Dorothy

Somewhere in scripture St. Paul tells us that the troubles of this life are as nothing as compared to the joys of heaven. This is good news to me and it's what I believe. - Wish I could quote chapter and verse, but I know that others will be able to. Joy.

The only immortality we have is through our genetic material. We pass on our genes to our children as they do to theirs. I do not believe in a God or an afterlife. I'm happy with that. Dee x