General Chat

The Iberians are the Spanish and Portuguese. During the initial 'migrations', those people travelled along the Atlantic coast to Britain, so their markers are found in what we now call 'Celts'. So Brittany, Cornwall, Wales, plus Ireland and Scotland. That is why you get Welsh people with swarthy skin and black curly hair

...but isn't 'British' a mixture?
On MH, Scottish would probably come under 'Celtic', even though the Celts of Scotland, Wales, Ireland and Cornwall have different Celtic genes.

This is an interesting analysis (BBC site)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31905764

What shouldn't be forgotten, is people move - but DNA stays the same - although it can be spread differently in family members!
I'm 40 odd% Northern European, 40 odd% Celtic and 9.6% Iberian.
Where did the Iberian come from? I haven't found any Iberian type people so far - Cornish, Suffolk and Hampshire - yes, and a 'Doutch' which indicates a Huguenot weaver years back - but that would be the Northern European DNA
Well, one of my g grans was born in Hampshire - as was her father, mother, and Grandparents - but they were from the New Forest, and are actually from a Romany family - very difficult to trace - but could that be where the Iberian comes from?

My sister is similar, with 3% Iberian. Her son is Northern European, Celtic - and Roman! Yet his father was Irish, his grandparents were Murphy's and Kelly's from Dublin - but there have been Italians migrating to Northern Ireland since the 18th Century, and my nephew's grandparents move to England in the late 1940's, so people move around, but, as I say, DNA only changes with marriage and children - and sometimes, not a lot!

I'd love my children to take a DNA test - and their father.
It transpires, his grandmother was also a member of a New Forest Gypsy family'
According to the censuses my great gran, and his gran worked at the same Farmhouse in Sway - but at different times - 10 years apart,
How close are we, DNA-wise?

What is even weirder, both ex and I are from Service families, so moved around a lot. We both ended up living in the New Forest, but never knew each other (different schools), we only met because his mother died, he came back from Cyprus (he was in the RAF) and his best mate at school was the bloke my sister was dating (they later married, as did ex and I)!

I have 14% Scots, but I do have a FH line from Scotland. I have no English DNA at all, zilch. All the rest is Western European, apart from 1.1%, that is Nigerian....don't know where that comes in!

OH is mostly English, the Scottish families came to Yorkshire about 4 generations back, and he has a lot of Yorkshire. Also matches with Yorkshire folk.

Interesting what you said about Scottish ancestry on MH. I know of someone with strong Scottish ancestry but MH says she has no Scots.

I am mostly British on Ancestry, totally British on Living dna and not very British on MH.

What are you hoping to find, tawny?

The test basically tells you the areas where your DNA matches best, plus matches with other people who have had a test and share some of those areas.

OH and I had ours tested with My Heritage, mainly because it was a black Friday offer..... and I downloaded it to a couple of other sites too, but not Anc because they don't accept others.

The results can be interesting, mainly because you don't know how far back the link is. So despite a large number of my ancestors coming from the north side of Morecambe Bay, my largest ancestry is Western European, which is France/Germany/Benelux countries. (Normans, Angles, Saxons, Vikings?)
My results don't split the areas any more than this.

OH's mother was descended from 2 Scottish families, but he has zero scottish DNA.

Re matches, I've found some new ones, extra to the family tree matches that we find on normal FH sites, but also have DNA matches with people I already matched trees with.
I have found though that very few people put enough family tree on the DNA sites to be able to identify a match. But as with FH site tree matches, new folk are joining in all the time.

Thank you. I’ll have a look at them. My ancestry includes Northern Ireland, Dublin, Cornwall, The Valleys of South Wales, Hertfordshire, Buckinghamshire and Berkshire in Southern England, Whitehaven, St Bees and Wasdalehead in northern England and both the east and west coast of Scotland.

I’ve done a test with Ancestry and also uploaded the results to My Heritage.
They both give you shared matches and how closely you match. They both show where most people share your dnacome from but it covers wide areas ( such as southern England) both companies have given me very different results.

I also did a seperate test with Living DNA because they break the results down into smaller areas which is quite interesting. They also now give you shared matches but my best matches have been with Ancestry. The other two give me matches that are far too distant in time.

In a way it is a bit like those Ancestry adverts that mak e people believe you just type in a name and it all falls into place.

Mr Owl and I are both really interested in having dna tests done. What companies have others used and what type of things might they show? My ancestors moved a lot for work so it would be interesting to see how many of places they lived left genetic markers.