General Chat

Thank you Joy, that sounds reasonable.

JoyLouise, the linked article said that the child was to be the woman's son & his (male) partner's. The partner's sister donated the egg while the son's contribution fertilized it. A lovely & loving way to combine their DNA.

Keep it in the family is a term springs to mind.

It certainly is, Det.

If it shouldn't be allowed why did the IVF team and the Doctors

and nurses go along with it ?

David ................

the answer to your question is VERY simple

..................... because the clinics that do this make a LOT of money out of it, and laws are less lax in India and China in particular (and maybe some other countries).

It isn't allowed over a certain age in the UK, Canada, US, most of Europe, that I know of.

Good morning, I wouldn't have thought it was possible

never mind desirable. They could always adopt ?

So why was this Thread started the child will never know its parents properly shame who will bring it up poor little love Barbara

Barbra, it's all David's fault. He started it. ;-) :-D

True Joy keeps the post moving :-) :-)

Of course it's my fault, I started it. Twin girls I read, only saying.

An interesting point I think

from this article: https://abovethelaw.com/2019/09/73-year-old-sets-record-for-oldest-woman-to-give-birth-so-far/

" On one side, some countries do provide a solid limit as to the age of a woman when assisted reproductive technology will no longer be permitted for conception. In Israel, that age is 45. In Japan, 43.

On the other hand, it is not an uncommon argument that there should be no limit. After all, there is no limit on the age men are allowed to reproduce the old fashion way. "

Some older natural fathers:

http://www.oldest.org/people/fathers/

But being pregnant puts a far greater strain on the female body than producing a few sperm does on a man's

................ and it takes for a lot longer from beginning to end!

In the production of any baby, the father can be incidental whereas the mother is always fundamental.

Just saying!

lol Sylvia, I had best be careful with my reply to that :-D

It's certainly not something I'd want to go through at that sort of age, not the birth nor the looking after :-D

I tried to be as careful as I could!

I wouldn't like to do it at 50, let alone 77!

I ain't gonna be careful .... in for a penny and all that .....

He can't be incidental, Dermot, it takes two to tango whether they dance the normal way or in a tube.

And .... Dermot, you forgot to say that the father can never be 100% certain he is the father (apart from relatively recent DNA testing).

Oh, gawd, I am babbling on a couple of threads now ... It's late, I gotta get on home ...

It's a wise child that knows it's own Father.

Kense my grandmother was born in 1877 and aged 50 when she had my mother who was her 9th child naturally. The doctor warned her to expect anything, deformity, Down's syndrome etc. My mother was born with a problem hip as are many babies with much younger mothers are, but was treated and fine otherwise. My grandmother lost 1 child at the age of 3 and 2 of them didn't marry or have children, but the rest of her children provided her with 39 grandchildren. She had a hard life as her husband and 6 sons were all coal miners and all the washing was done in the old fashioned copper by hand and hand wringer. She had 1 water tap over the sink and all water was heated on the fire for the tin bath to come out when the men came home from the pit. (no showers at the pit in those days) She wouldn't have electricity put in and all cooking was all done on a big black leaded range. I know all this because I would stay with her at times and be sent to bed carrying a lighted candle up the winding stairs in pitch dark. She lived in her house looking after one of her sons who never married until she died aged 84.

With advances in health and diet I wonder if today's young women might be capable of having children naturally at an even greater age?

JoyLouise - explanation:

Incidental - The father of the child can be any random male person.

Fundamental - The mother can only be the one & only person to give birth.