General Chat

Nicola Sturgeon is broadcasting live from Holyrood and is seeking approval for Indyref2

Everendums!

Least you will have a choice Glasgow Lass ;-) :-D :-D

Don't get me started GL.

Excellent speech by SPM Sturgeon.

Now May can choose an opt in to Single Market and customs union while leaving the EU thus keeping the UK intact. Or she can follow her Primrose path to destruction which will prob force a massive u-turn anyway

The idea that the Scots couldn't row their own boat outside of the UK is mad Eire, Denmark for instance do just fine.

If May attempts to control the date or make other changes such as denying the 16-18 vote it will only enrage the Scots.

current polls have 50-50 vs 45-55 last time. Otoh it is difficult to see much in the brexit negs that might encourage the Scots to stay.

HMG should look at the upside. if the Scots leave that will be £ 5 bn off the divorce bill. It will also be £ 5 bn available for Scotland's people rather than funding May's divorce.

Businesses with heavy dependency on EU trade treaties won't take long to slide the rule over the Snps plans.

As I said on FB she is just really peed off that they lost the Calcutta cup again :-D

I wanted to stay in the UK and I wanted to stay in the EU.

Somewhere between a rock and a hard place now with a 2nd Indyref looming.
:-D :-D :-D :-D

The main reason Scotland can not survive in the EU is that the EU will not allow it as they've stated many times before. To allow that will open the flood gate of all the little places in Europe that want to seperate too.

Don't worry Great Birnam Wood to Dunsinane shall come.
There will be blood.

What ???

Macbeth :-D

Which other than being Scottish has what to do with Brexit.......

Is Rollo honestly saying there will be a civil war if Scotland isn't allowed to separate?

Separate please do....but don't expect the EU to support you nor the rest of the remaining UK....so how will they survive....

And yes I have plenty of Scots blood in me.

The position of the EU re membership for Scotland post brexit is utterly different to the status quo. Spain's objection would no longer stand as the former UK would no longer be a member state.

Sturgeon would have to get her timing right soon after the brexit but before the gt repeal act.

If May had any sense she would stay in the customs union and single market while withdrawing from the EU political structure. That would be fine with the 70% and May could get on with running the country instead of running it over the cliff.

If we're just throwing in random Scots words/messages/quotes

Haggis.......Scotch......Tatties.....Kilts....... :-)

Of course Spain amongst others will still object.....why would this not open flood gates

Scotland is just like Quebec they will keep sulking until they get what they want but what they want is everything and then some.
They want to be on their own with money coming from the Uk and the EU.Without this they have nothing ...okay to be fair they have something but not enough so they'd have to make big cut backs...but they don't want that either.

the line of denigrating Scotland aka project fear 2 has little chance of success. "Better together" will fall on deaf ears

Spain has limited room to object as its financial sector is on life support backed up by the Germans via the EU. It has no general objection to small states as new members eg the Balts, Slovenia, Croatia. It is def going to want its pound of flesh re Gib.

Obviously some people played hookey at school when English Lit got around to the Scottish play.

Actually I was more for Netball than hockey, and seeing as I studied the Scottish play many many decades ago I'll not apologies.....since then I've read goodness knows how many thousands of different books/plays/poems.

Scotland is taking nothing to the EU......they intend to take that's all......even the EU will wake up to the fact they can't keep taking on leeches when one of their biggest blood donors is leaving. Germany can only pay for so many failed countries.

Oh and let Scotland pay for the new vote out of their own money

"to play hookey" - absent from School without permission

Why do you regard Scotland or Quebec as a "failed states" taking Libya, Syria, Somalia as often quoted examples?

fwiw the UK has massive external debt stemming from a 6% balance of payments debt, personal debt especially mortgage and of course the fabled govt deficit.
post Brexit servicing this debt will need more than hubris from Phil Hammond.

Try not to sound like a red bus slogan or a Trump tweet.

I assumed you'd done a typo as one can't play hookey at school rather from school