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I wish to make a strong protest against labelling people who are only in their seventies....as 'Old'. You see it time and time again in newspapers. Why ! I've even seen it on GR! :-D :-D :-D

No problem Hayley - just thought someone good with words might have twisted that one.

Thank you nameless one well spotted it looked correct to me ;-)

John I wouldn’t dream of telling you off or trying to. Your post are very interesting at times and always well written, I actually missed you when you was not posting and sulking so I am only trying to help you, you do tend to go off on your own at times don’t you? Maybe its years of giving training sessions and presentations who knows. ;-)

well I have to confess to be law abiding - I didn't pay my speeding fine but chose the option of going on a driver improvement course, which was more than the cost of the fine

I paid the £75 was throwing a cigarette end out of the car!! :-(

that's it - no other unlawful misdemeanors

Hayley. Please stop telling me off. I am beginning to think you are my daughter, who also tries to keep me in line :-) She is also 31 and blonde, incidentally. :-)

Oops - watch the typos!

John you have digressed from the subject once again, as interesting to some as I am sure it is, your student days of protesting, as is signs in Welsh and English as it your retirment fund is a another subject for another day on another thread perhaps! I think this is what people mean when they refer that “ the thread is being taken over” . Please stay on the topic thank you

The topic on this thread is evasion of paying Council tax and rebel pensioners that should know better and be setting a better example to the younger generation, which often they are too quick to slag off!!!!!.


My dearest sweetest kitty please don’t take offence at being labelled “ Holy than thou” I took it as a Complement as I am sure it was meant.
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Jax. Had a mega retirement pot at 43 when I took a voluntary redundancy from Tesco. Unfortunately have had to "draw down" a lot of that pension since 50. But yes, should be ok in retirement. Depends how much people want to borrow ;-)

Surely with all these years working in management for Tesco John, you will have a reasonable pension to top up your government one?

I mentioned my dad in a previous post, he retired at 60 from a Bank after working for them for 26 years (not management), he then took another job until he was 65 and has now been retired for 11 years and tells me he is much better off than when he was working

RamblingRose I concur - we need more people to champion our causes don't we?

I shall be "Disgusted of Rhondda", Rose :-D :-D

Am just amazed that my fellow Genes chatters are such religious adherents and so law-abiding. Has no-one got any rebellious spirit? Are you all totally happy with Governments and local authorities?

I still don't like new GR tree layout - but will not protest as the authorities say it is better for me/us/one/two. ;-)

This protest between her and her local council is now in its 3rd year not a new up in arms disgruntled pensioner,,,,,,,the first of 3 was paid for by a donor as she protested she couldnt afford it,,,,,,no one came and paid last year and so far no one has come forward to pay this year,,,,,

odd that she becomes a lone protester the same time each year,,,,,,,,!and there is no local group of banded protesters behind her,,,,!!




the cash she is paying £25 week is last years arrears, Vera.

Well there you are John, you have considerable writing skills which can be put to good use when you retire, and two causes on which to focus those skills, single person council tax discounts and the efficiency of whoever has the cotract for waste disposal in your area :-)

I loved to protest when I was student nearly 50 years ago. Investiture, English only signs in Wales, valleys being flooded for reservoirs without any local consultation. Have felt pretty annoyed about certain things since student days, but we tend to not protest when it affects your job security, wages and pension.

However, I will shortly join the unwaged and workshy after 49 years on the treadmill and hope I will be active once again in protesting. And not only on Genes chat, but wrapped up round a brazier on a cold winter's day.

And if they take my bus pass or my winter fuel allowance off me, watch out!! And if my local council does not do the job they say they are going to do (like collecting rubbish within 24 hours of when they want it put out) then I will be asking questions and sitting round my brazier (hopefully not alone). I am pretty fed up putting rubbish out before 7am each Thursday as requested and arriving home EVERY Thursday evening since 1st June and it has not been collected. On windy days, the rubbish has blown 200 yards down street from where I placed it :-( :-(

The point about protest I think is that it depends on numbers...yes one person can start a campaign , but it takes many people all saying the same thing to get the 'cause'' into the national consciousness if you like.

Using two points of John's as an example

"I hope you have accepted speeding and parking fines with no protest. I hope you have never been on any Aldermaston march."

If I refuse to accept a speeding charge or parking fine, I am just one person who may or may not have a 'point of principle'...if I march with 100s of others, or thousands as in the anti-war protests, or even as one of 1000s who sign a petition... it may not make a difference at that time but the ISSUE becomes important enough for people to look into it , which is what may change it in the long term.

(Edit, I was too young for Aldermarston so am using 'I' in a general sense in this last paragraph...I don't like to use 'you' because it can be interpreted as meaning someone specific...and using 'we' just prompts an accusation of being cliquey usually...and 'one' sounds a bit like I am trying to be 'posh' lol)

Hardly a triumvirate (google it lol)

vera2010 - one poster was going on about a vicar who did not pay taxes so I was just highlighting the fact that Christians are taught to pay - didn't mean to go on about it sorry.

There are plenty of other ways to protest in my opinion.

I object most strongly to you labelling me "holier than thou" John

How rude!!

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However I will rise above it as it is the weekend and I am enjoying the rest of my day :-D :-D

She isnt a poor old OAP is she ? 16K in the bank isnt poor not a pot to pee in is poor no money for the gas in winter is poor, and now I am holy than thou because I dont feel sorry for her and think she shouldnt have to pay then yep your spot on I am , just like my dear old Mum had to pay her's not only did she make sure she paid her way in life most of the time she made sure at times she in her own words " was up front " ( paid in advance) ;-)

May be her supports should pay the bill save it being a burden on the rest of the honest council tax payers...just a thought :-D

Missed you there Rose. I doubt she would ever get any publicity going by the route of paying up and protesting. Whatever happened to the Bedroom tax protests (oh heck that's another story), I don't have her 'courage'. She could get her MP to help her out but I gather there all off on hols now.

Vera

Umm, Vera2010 - looks like the thread is being highjacked again.