General Chat

Well I really enjoyed this first one with Una....just missed Mark Strong as the narrator :-(

Roger, I agree with Mau.
When I got 'local' certs from Bugle Street in Southampton, I'd go in, fill in the form, visit the pub up the road for a swift half or two, (merely for 'atmospheric' reasons - then go back and collect them :-D

Well I also enjoyed the first one and glad it was
Una Stubbs, such a lovely genuine person, never
changed really in that has she.
Hope the rest are in the same vein and no one is OTT.

Emma :-)

I'm with Janet on Una as she was a bit OTT on not knowing who was who in her family.

Also I have never really liked her but I still watched it and actually found it boring.

One of her cousins said"Not just Yorkshire but YORK."" there is nowt wrong with any area of Yorkshire.

I have nothing against anyone on these programmes but when they are trying to be better than anyone else it gets on my nerves which Una's cousin tried to do.

Funny how people view things differently Sue, I just heard it that she was being 'specific', stressing York the city rather thank 'Yorks' the county, so there could not be any mistake :-)

On a general note I think many people are so busy living their own lives, they don't think about their ancestors, especially those they never met) until there is a particular reason ( eg the programme, or a death).

I thought it was terrible.

Did she not know what was meant by not having a father on a birth cert ?

I agree Rose - i heard the "York" bit which I though made it easier to search in as Yorkshire is a big place to search - would love to live up there one day.

I loved it thought she was very natural - same as always - I always liked Una Stubbs. such a shame she never got to meet her grandparents.

I had the same thing in my family & I never got to meet them - even though they only lived a few streets away - I only found out about them when i did my tree over 25 years ago.

I like the new female voice over & delving in celebrity pasts.

They just seem to be running out of people you have heard of these days - at least 3 of them on the list I haven't a clue who they are – but will still watch
them anyway – just won’t watch them again if I don’t like it.

For example Rick Stein’s one so bored & the lovely Patrick Stewart – I was so looking forward to that one & hated it didn’t go anywhere just stayed on his father, which was great for him. I like to see Ancestors & if there were any actors in the early family etc.


Still we can't all like the same things can we

GB I do wonder sometimes if they are told to ask questions such as what did the lack of father's name mean so that the explanation can be given for the benefit of people new to genealogy. Not everybod knows these things.

I think we are just so used to knowing the whys and wherefores of certs and such on here that it's easy to forget that some people never even see a certificate except perhaps their own lol so don't realise what that dash where father should be means.

Mindyou , it's not that long since people thought illegitmacy was only in 'other people's families' never their own :-)

I would have liked to know what happened to Annie's mother, that's the problem though I always want to know the bits they don't follow up lol.

RR As you and I said the cousin stressed York.
York is no better than any other place in Yorkshire.

I am Glad they showed Rose Street in York forJoan,she would have had a lot of lovely memories of her childhood.


GB I think the actress was coming out in her when they told her a line through the father's name on the birth cert..

Like ""Oh I don't know what that means""
Yeah right.

it's easy to say people should know...but then which of us when we were new to the internet knew the terminology? If you've neve been involved in something before you probably don't know.

Some people still think 'fly on the wall' style tv programmes are in 'real time', totally unscripted,and are not edited to the nth degree to neatly fit the programme time ;-)

"It's life Jim, but not as we know it' :-D

Sue I am sure there are lots of wonderful places in Yorkshire, just as 'good' as York, but sadly I have never been to any part of Yorkshire to know :-) It's on my list of places to visit before I die, along with Scotland and Ireland.

The programme did give me pause for thought on one of 'mine', like Una i never met one of my grandmothers, i assumed, if I thought about it at all, that my dads mum had died before I was born or when I was a young child. I never met her, or heard from her, it was only recently that I thought to look and she died when I was 15 or so. I can only think it was because my mum was dad's second wife, as when I asked my half sister she said she used to visit her etc.

Funny think (some) families lol.

I am sure they are fed the questions to ask (even if it makes them look stupid !) for the benefit of viewers who don't know so much about genealogy

................like the throw up your hands in horrror and cry at the mention of the workhouse/hospital thing. Some of mine died there, but they didn't live there

Easingwold is nice .............and Crayke ............ be up there from Essex in September !!

Oh and Leeds as well to see Micky Flanagan at your new concert hall

If you have never seen a birth certificate other than your own (having lived with both parents) I can accept someone being bewildered by the ------------------ under name of father. I promptly asked OH if he had known that and he hadn't. He hasn't the slightest interest in looking at forms/certs.

I watched it all again on Iplayer,couldn't see mam amongst the other workers leaving the factory,nor my step dad,(wasnt bothered about seeing him!!) but looking down Rose Street I could once again see us children playing in the street, skipping, hopscotch, gathering on our bikes to go for a ride to the nearby stray, playing schools on the sunny side of the road, taking the neighbours babies out for a walk in their prams to the nearest park, walking to the local swimming pool (across from Rowntrees factory) where we could stay all day for 4 old pence.

There was a lane entrance between our house & my pals house & we would put up a rope & hang blankets on it to make curtains for our concerts & get our mams chairs & stools for the audience, lol.

I could see me & Maggie sitting on our doorstep & play / practice on our recorders, which drove my step dad mad, I thought once again of the day when I went into my mams bedroom to get a huge icicle from the guttering,as I opened the old sash window & reached out the window slammed down onto my other hand,boy did I scream!
Mam dashed me to the hospital not far away & fortunately no bones were broken, when we returned home I got into big trouble for what I had done, lol.

No- 49 is no longer in the street,it was knocked down in recent times along with 3 others,the council built 8 flats in their place!
I have never understood why they did that, our house was the biggest in the street,& of a different design & layout from the others in the street, it was compulsory purchased from the family that bought it from us.
Still even though they took the house away I still have my memories.

I could go on & on but I won't bore you any longer, lol.

Joan.

Amokavid (Joan)
It was lovely to read about your memories and like you we did most of the things you did.

Back in the late 40/early 50's.

Thanks for writing about them. :-D

Thanks Sue.

Had a wee bubble when I watched it the second time & recalled the memories, an age thing I think !

Joan.

amokavid definitely not boring
Nor una's story tho i do think it would be nice if they took examples from us ordinary folks
i felt very empathetic because some of it feels close to my recent finding proof of My great grandfather's name and later a photo but not definite proof that it is same man yet . My mother didn't show her emotions but has framedher new Grandad's photo where he is smartly posing for his 1916 naturalization document . we discovered the names of the next generation up this am and they were still alive in the 30's-40's am about to inform my aunt + see if she had una stubb type tears at news that her Russian greatgrandparents were alive during her lifetime . !!!

I loved it found it really interesting. What the hell was Una wearing? She looked like yer sinster prim Aunt that used to call on a sunday after church. But it was funny to watch her cringe whilst watching the 1950's advert of herself, even she said " No Una to much "

I found the stuff about Rowntrees really interesting companies like them Cadburys and Fry's choc all Quakers and really tried to their workers a better quaility of life some call it controlling I think they were just trying to encourage the demands of drink and show people you dont have to be rich or drunk to have a good time.

What a shame about Una being kept from her Grandparents what an awful snob her Mother must of been and what a shame her Father went along with it.

I really enjoyed it. I quite admire Una. She was lovely in those early films and has remained the same - even at 75!! (edit - 76)

And nice to follow the journey of somebody who knew hardly anything about genealogy or her family.

My dad knew hardly anything about his father's side for exactly the same reasons. His father came from quite an established family (in Wolverhampton) and his mother came from a respectable working class family from the eastern side of the town. She would invite her own family to come over very often, but never invited my grandfather's family. And rarely visited them unless it was for something special like marriages or christenings.

So, exactly the same - except the class thing was other way round. And Dad never did any research into his mother's side as they were so "ordinary". That was left to me after his death 35 years ago. And they are far from ordinary - some great characters.

I have just found those posts of Joan to be absolutely fascinating. To see your mum, yourself and friends on old footage - very emotional :-) :-) :-)