General Chat

Yes Roy, those old militants still command an element of fear even today.

What is the quote for John?
I really think you are misinterpreting - is it deliberate or cannot be helped?

May I also point out that some people have admitted they will be there and will turn their backs on the funeral procession as it passes.

Errol, The position here in Yorkshire "Yes I am as Yorkshire as you can get" It's pretty much the same mixed bag but Ive not heard much bad said about her I suspect that the majority against her are saying nothing possible respect for the dead? but I do no that some are keeping quiet for fear of intimidation from the old militants who still worship Scargill

Roy

"I wonder if the unruly and despicable rabble who may show their heads over the parapet tomorrow have even stopped to consider for one second that apart from the utter and shameful disrespect, whilst they are causing their problems they are taking personnel away from the job of protecting those in attendance." (Errol)

Have since been told (AnnC) that the unruly and despicable rabble are those having parties tomorrow and celebrating. Well, it may happen. I doubt it will prevent a dignified and good day for those who want to see the funeral go off without major incident.

Lady T is not as popular as David Cameron, Andrew R T Davies and others think she is, but am sure even her bitterest opponents will not get involved tomorrow out of respect for her family, the Queen and Prince Philip and the foreign dignatories that will be attending. Plenty of time to say our piece after tomorrow.

Johnluv, I think it's time you popped off to bed - or specsavers!

Roy what was the general concensus of opinion in your area?
(are you actually in Yorkshire?)

oh for heaven's sake - I don't think anyone actually said that a rabble was expected to appear.
People said that it was a possibility, or that they hoped it would not happen etc etc.
Mere surmising, that's all.
sheesh sometimes it's worse than teaching the reception class!

Sorry, chums. Misunderstood. Assumed they intended to protest.

My original question was about this "rabble" that are expected to appear tomorrow. Was anyone aware of any groups from the old industrial areas who are planning to protest in London. I assumed Roy was giving an example - must not assume :-(

Errol, Yep,

John Sometimes your beyond contempt

Roy

Ever feel exasperated, Roy?

John, Please read my post again I never said quote; "coachload of miners would go down to London to protest" :-|

What I said was Quote;,,,,, "I was offered a place on a coach leaving Yorkshire full of ex miners who intend paying there respects, Not all Yorkshire miners feel the same way, some actually thought she did them a favour"

Roy

Once again John - read !!!
That is not what Roy said.

I am surprised that a coachload of miners would go down to London to protest.

But that was exactly what I was wondering, Roy. Have not heard of any groups going down from South Wales, but my ear is not as close to ground as I sometimes think it is. :-)

Lot of pits were closed by (Edit under, not by) Wilson, Heath and Callaghan. And some were still being opened over that period. Cannot remember when all the coal and steel closed down in Black Country. Baggeridge was quite late closing, I think. But you may be right, Roy - all may have been closed before 1979.

I think you are right Roy.
One of the hardest hit areas was North Staffordshire and it is still reeling from it and very much deprived even now.

AnnC is right - there will be parties. I spoke to one of my high postage friends today who invited me to one tomorrow night. She said it had nothing to do with Lady T - just wanted to have a party and tomorrow seemed a good day.

Does seem to me to be a bit tasteless to have a party on the day of this rather high profile funeral, so I made my excuses and left. I hope the papers don't pick up on these parties and make a big thing of them. :-(

I may have my history wrong but I thought the Black Country mining industry had gone before the Thatcher years?

I was offered a place on a coach leaving Yorkshire full of ex miners who intend paying there respects, Not all Yorkshire miners feel the same way, some actually thought she did them a favour

Roy

Confusion could not be further from the truth dear boy.

Not odd at all, Errol. Plenty of places had coal mines and steel works. Kent, Black Country. Question applies to all of those areas as well - I just gave a couple of examples. Sorry to confuse you.

Was wondering if people are planning to protest in those areas or, like my area, are they just generally ignoring events and hoping funeral passes without too much incident?

But I still don't understand why you single out those areas - there were plenty more parts of the country with heavy industry, mining etc
Seems a bit odd to me

Singled out those areas because they were areas of heavy industry - with lots of fairly well paid jobs in steel and coal. Lady T never achieved her objective of uniting Britain, and I think the interest in tomorrow's events will probably be very muted in those areas.

Like Tec, I sincerely hope it will pass off peacefully tomorrow. Think rent-a gobs will be marginalised if they appear.