General Chat

If Nelson Mandela had been allowed to vote then he would not have become what Thatcher called a terrorist, the "process" didn't allow black South Africans to vote, despite them being in the majority. "Necklacing" was condemned and forbidden by the ANC.

Despite his inhuman treatment Mandela spoke of peace and unity when he came out of prison and was rightfully made president.

He united a nation. Thatcher divided a nation as this thread shows.

I hope her funeral passes peacefully, although I fear it won't. I hope it doesn't cost anywhere near the 8 million pounds the press are quoting - unjustifiable, given our present economic climate.

Edit - It's wrong to say that young people don't know anything about her. Thatcherism is studied in A level history.

History will judge her.

Kay
"how will people feel about Camerons government if hes in office for the next 10+ years"

suicidal ! ( assuming I last that long )

:-D :-D :-D

RIP Maggie :-( :-(

I too hope her funeral passes without hecklers,if nobody can show any respect for her,then they must think of her children and grandchildren,it will in very bad taste.

Rose...... :-D :-D :-D,

Well she did the Poll Tax which saw many out of work people unable to pay and were sent to prison and often lost posessions though ballifs ,,,,,,now whats Cameron doing,reducing money and wanting more than people have often got,,,,,also setting high criteria for the disabled......talk about kicking the cruch from under them......
just hope they dont have another 10 years at it or we will be riddled with all sorts cause we cant afford the health care or pay to see a doctor,,,,,,,,, ;-) :-D

oh god school milk in the 70s was horrible,warm in summer and freezing cold in winter...my mum used to make me lovely hot milk with honey in winter after school,and cold milk just out of the fridge in summer. no pop allowed in our house.

Agree with Muffy that free milk was not needed in the 70s. :-D

RR & G


Too right!

Also, I was a school child when Thatcher came to power, doesnt mean I know nothing about her and what she 'did'

Yes, school milk was pretty awful in the summer months. My favourite trick was to suck a fruit gum while drinking it, to make it taste like a milk shake!

She is NOT being give a State Funeral ........



.................... she is being given a Ceremonial Funeral with Military Honours


That is one level below a State Funeral.

spot on Sylvia - I did try to point that out earlier

You may hate her .................

You may dislike her policies, and what she did, or did not do, to Britain during her 3 terms in office.

However, the great British public did elect her, it was their choice to have her in office for so many years!


It is fact that

.......... she was elected 3 times

.......... she broke the tradition of White, Anglo-Saxon, preferably Anglican, MALE politicians in power.

.......... she dragged Britain out of what was a dreadful state of affairs, social and economic

........ she is revered by many people in other countries in the G8 ........ and by many powerful people the world over

.......... she saved the Falklands from the Argentina takeover



She has been credited with playing a major role in the fall of the Soviet Union, along with Richard Reagan and Pope John Paul 11. She convinced Reagan support Gorbachev's move to perestroika, which eventually led to the break-up of the Union thus turned him towards helping Gorbachev instead of opposing.

That led to the time of peace and prosperity that followed the end of the Cold War ............................ and if you cannot imagine living under the threat of nuclear warfare between the two great powers of the US and the Soviet Union, then better read some books!


She was divisive in the UK .............. but her policies were much admired, and followed, in other countries.



There is no reason for rioting and celebrating the death of any human being, and certainly no excuse for comparing her with people like Sadaam Hussein!

I know you did, Errol!!! :-D

Sylvia you have pretty much put it in a nutshell.
I agree with all you said and yes, the G8 countries do see that in the greater picture she did a lot of good.
(I wasn't criticising about saying it earlier incidentally)

Did anyone say it was to be a State funeral? The Daily Mail is campaigning for it, though.

Very well said Sylvia :-)

Errol


I know you weren't criticising. However, I did think it worthwhile repeating.



Sometimes, I do wonder what state Britain would be in now if she had not come along!


Bet not many people remember all the mine strikes, dead people left unburied because of strikes, picket lines outside hospitals that people could not cross to get treatment, businesses stifled.

Britain was being left well behind by other countries ................ including such minor ones as what used to be called the "colonies"

Canada and Australia, in particular, were booming, largely as a result of all the people emigrating, businesses moving out of Britain, etc.


The first elements of all that were showing by the time we left the UK in 1967 ................. and I still had family and friends who kept up up to date with what it was like in the 70s, as well as the couple of visits we made back.

It wasn't very pleasant to see!

G ................

several people on this thread have been saying "State Funeral", and how she didn't deserve one ................ as though it was "fact"

It is not.

Lyndi


Thank you!


I know it might be a somewhat unwelcome view that I have .......

................ but it is the one from a distance, and the way in which she was, and still is, seen by the world.

The Daily Mail!!!!! The Daily Fascist


Im off to bed ;-)

Well said Sylvia, perhaps someone seeing things from a distance was able to see things more clearly. Love her or loath her she will not be forgotten.