General Chat

LilyL. I knew exactly what you meant. :-D :-D

Joeva. Have just waded throught your post and it is very interesting indeed. It more or less confirms a couple of things I thought ie it happened less than 1,000 years ago and had nothing to do with early Christianity.

I found Pope Paul VI boring myself. But I kind of think that his jewel in the crown statement and the comment in Bible about making yourself a eunuch is what it is all about.

That people in professional paid ministry should have the same freedoms as church people who are lay. That is, if they want a partner to enhance their ministry, they should have one. And, if they want to be eunuchs, jewels in the crown, whatever, they should be encouraged to stay single and celibate.

Cynthia. Had not thought too much about your point re Sally Army officers, but now I think about it, it is true. I think the two Majors in my valley and the next one are a married couple. And Gideons encourage married people - they always seem to pray (example only) for Joyce (and her husband Len). I have yet to see an unmarried Gideon.

Thanks for reading John ! To me this is a very plausible explanation of the way that the 'rules' for Priesthood are applied today. :-|

I feel as if I am wandering in a Googley Wikpedia kinda place :-S :-S :-S

Can anybody explain in simple English what this lot is talking about. I've been away a few hours and I think I've lost the plot.

GP

Thank you Joeva - that was an interesting article (even if I did have to read it twice) :-D


It's good to see the factual history behind the reasoning of celibacy. Saves a lot of guesswork. :-)

Very interseting Joeva, I think all is summed up well in the first two paragraphs!

this is supposed to be a "Chat" board - not a contest to see who can rip off the longest piece of text from Google :-S :-S :-S :-S

GP. Love your Avatar. Very distinguished and good-looking.

Who is it?

Prince Philip, I think ;-)

John - Thats me I'm afraid and I'm not marrying you. :-D :-D

GP

Did you actually read it Ann?

It was totally in keeping with the essence of this thread and very interesting as well.


On this sort of subject, it's much better to get the facts straight rather than have lots of comments which are based on supposition and guesswork.


If people find this too heavy for them, there are plenty of light-hearted threads to join in. Please allow some of us to have a discussion on something we find really interesting and about which we have some knowledge. Thank you.

Oooh, can I come please Ann ;-)

Did I actually read it Cynthia? no I certainly did not - it's supposed to be a discussion, if people don't use their own words then the discussion is lost - I may on occasion resort to a line or two from Google, but pages of it!!!! never
We are not in school - it's a CHAT board FGS

anybody can copy and paste
but its better to have ones own opinion than words of another :-D :-D

My answer to the original poster's question: yes, if they wish so to do.

Copies of text from a website can be useful; my thanks to those that contributed such.

As I'm not a catholic, I don't really mind what they do, but I suppose if you're a catholic priest, you'd join the church knowing you couldn't marry?

My Nan who was a devout catholic, so she said, would of probably had a corony if she thought her priest could marry, she'd of lost a drinking partner if he had :-D

Each faith to it's own :-D

pmsl Ann
I have to agree - this should be discussion rather than copying and pasting reams and reams - I can look that up for myself.

A discussion thread should be just that. By all means read up on Wikipedia etc but don't just quote it. Use it as the basis for intelligent discussion and debate - anyone can cut and paste.

Back to the topic - I think the catholic church would find it exceedingly hard to implement such a fundamental change to its very being.

well said errol (did i just agree with a man) :-D :-D

As an atheist I suppose my opinion isn't worth tuppence but you are going to get it anyway :-D

Celibacy, in my view neither enhances nor is a pre-requisite for anyone in any ministry.

What is interpreted from a story book can be skewed to suit one group's argument or any others.

We live in 2013, that has to be taken into account. Individuals are more educated, travelled and enquiring and do not just accept a spoken doctrine as the be all and end all unless they have been brainwashed.

I believe a married priest would have more compassion for his flock, after all he has to demonstrate the same to his wife. He would also have a greater understanding of the trials of modern day marriage and raising of children, understanding fractured families and what they have lost.

That rather than being married to somone he can't see, doesn't have to provide for, doesn't care for or share daily worries with.

If a priest wants to remain celibate, good for him, he wouldn't be on the top of my list as a choice though. Far too detached from real life.

El_Tigre Report 23 Feb 2013 09:48

Personally I couldn't care less. I just think if you join a cult following you should abide by the club rules.
If you find you disagree with the T&C`s, resign and join another social club which has better offerings. Simples aint it.

.........What El Tigre said. :-D