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OH has rellies in Swansea (i'm saying nowt about dualling banjo's pmsl but in THIS instance it's not unrealistic lol) I always had a really dreamy relationship with the Welsh..soft and lovely where the Scottish seemed a bit brisk and harsh (sorry i know it's a generalisation)...this is all new to me...but i'm happy for anyone who doesn't feel they should be part of the UK to sod off tbh...kick out their MPs and leave England to it.......you all scream about being dictated to by Westminster.......fine........so takeYOUR MPs give ENGLAND their own parliament and get on with it......I'm a fan of the union but not in it's current form...*waits to be pelted with wet lettuces*

It's funny isn't it that what was the 5 nations rugby matches never caused any arguments or consternation..apart from the one or two bad calls from certain refs, that this thread thread has cast a bad light on the Welsh .

It was not what the OP intended.

What a load of ......

B - as in boring

O- as in outrageous

L- as in ludicrous

L- as in lush

O -as in outlandish


Best not go on, but blimey this thread has gone on and on a bit, no wonder my 3x Great Grandmother moved to England ;-)

I don't think it is only in Wales that you get extremists, just stay away from the druid man. :-D
Wales is a beautiful place and i'm sure the majority of the people are lovely.

This is just a thread that has at times got out of hand and people have taken umbrage with each other.It has been very funny at times and there have been some laughs.

It's open invitations to our house (in it's current state or finished) for friends Muffy being one. I'd hate for any of my friends not to come and stay because they feel the welcome at the tourist attractions and shops would not be the one expected.

What an opportunity missed to visit stunning beaches and countryside all because a few posts have really tarred the whole country.

I hold my hands up to Lampeter and parts of Ceredigion being unwelcoming but I do know where to go where the English pound will be very welcome and so will the tourists spending it.

Edit: you will be safe with Ann, Sandie and me, all live fairly close



:-D

Enter Island stage left - come away Wend, come away - leave it now :-D

Yes I know John is not Welsh

I haven't got a Welsh bone in my body and don't speak a word of Welsh - except for being able to count from 1 to 5 (taught to me by me elder sister who, when, as an English person starting school in St David's in 1957. was taught in Welsh)

Apart from that - I'm bloody proud to be an English person - no Welsh, Irish or Scottish ancestry.

.... my dad was 100% Cornish :-D

My mum's side - a bit mixed - Herefordshire, Buckinghamshire and Suffolk one side. Hampshire the other - going back to the original New Forest dwellers.
Even found out one side of my children's father's ancestors were also original New Forest dwellers.

You don't have to have a vague Welsh origin to be proud :-D

...still confused about the racial taunts I received as a child (3 shades darker than I am now, with jet black hair) from people who were less 'native' than I am!! :-S

Small being the word ... insignificant ..an English man desperate to be Welsh ...

Ann do you and Suecrutch live close by..you could be my body guards ;-) :-D :-D :-D :-D

John - you're back! Thought for a minute that you'd been off having a couple of glasses of that whisky your daughter gave you for Christmas :-D

you would be very unlucky to come across the likes of the pillock of an Archdruid or JohnlovesCocoa - believe me, they are a very small minority

Jax, Pronunciation is much easier than you think. There are 28 letters in Welsh alphabet and sounds are usually the same in every word.

a - a as in bat
b - b as in bat
c - c as in cat
ch - ch as in Johann Sebastian Bach
d - d as in ford
dd - "the" as in brea"the"
e - "ay" as in May
f - "v" as in vulture
ff "f" as in fox
g - g as in golf
h - h as in hand
i - "ee" as in cheese
j as in jam
l - l as in land
ll - "elth" as in "twelfth" without the "f" in it
m - m as in mom
n - n as is neice
ng - ng as in long
o - o as in pot
p - p as in pot
r - r as in run
rh - same as r followed quickly by an h. Thus Rhyl is not Rill but R-hill
s - s as in sand
t - t as in tooth
th - th as in thread
u - ee as in tree, but a bit more back in throat than the Welsh letter "i"
w = oo as in look
y - uh as in duh!!

So if you take any Welsh word - Llandudno, for example, you simply look at the number of letters. Ll, a, n, d, u, d, n, o (8 in Welsh) - then it should come out something like Thl -a-n-d-ee-d-n-o. And the o at the end is short as explained above, not the oh that you often hear people say.

I am not brilliant with Welsh, so issue a health warning with the above. :-) The only letter that does cause real problems (apart from double ell) is the "y" which can be pronounced differently in certain situations

Edit. Eglwyswrw is E-g-l-w-y-s-w-r-w (same 9 letters as in English). We always stress penultimate syllable - therefore the second w (or oo) sound would be stressed.

Ann i LOVED the folk who I bought my collie from in eggulsglural (sorry can't remember the welsh spelling) they spoke welsh but didn't ram it all down my throat....just were glad that I loved their pup and wanted to give her a good home...i had nothing but good vibes towards the Welsh til recently....now i just feel that I'd risk ballsing up my holiday so some shallow twat could prove a point.,no thanks.we don't have many holidays ...and i want the ones we do manage to take to be special......not fraught with poiltics.....

Sad Muffy......but it is the extremist that give us a bad reputation ! :-|

Happy holidays ,where ever you choose.

Muffy - you can visit me here in Cardiff and you will get a true Welsh welcome - the Welsh are a welcoming nation, they really are - I agree that some of what has been posted on here does give a rotten impression, but it's certainly not the Wales I know and love and my family have been here for centuries - I'm back to the 1700s on my tree in Wales

...and Sue will vouch for the fact that I was looking into a visit...no shade of b******t in my posts whatsoever.

i Said this earlier in the thread...and it's more relevant now than when i first said it.........i REALLY did intend to visit Wales this summer....and as a result of some of the posts on this thread i feel it would make my holiday awkward when all i want are a few days of FUN with my family...sod that.........i'll go to the lincolnshire coast instead......less petrol money and folk who aren't out to prove a point.

Sorry for the non extremists..but I'm genuinely appalled.

I was thinking earlier that the people on this thread who were posting in welsh were excluding others like me who do not speak or read welsh. I would not report it myself but surely if it is against t&cs for one poster to do it it is wrong for all of the other posters as well.Both John and MrDaff have been using welsh with no English translation

*Please note I am not one of John's followers or friends or a member of his so called harem* But fair is fair after all.

Keep Shaun's thread out of this discussion !

Any Welsh words on it are merely greetings or goodbyes, whom even non speaking Welsh peeps would understand.
As Sue pointed.out