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LOL ........... Well John you are English , but desperate to be Welsh

I give up. Have booked myself into a hospital tomorrow as all you lovely people born in England want me to also be English. Apparently they fit this thing on my head and make me learn the words of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.

66 years a proud Welshman, last 20 or so a proud Englishman living in the Rhondda. Oh, bliss :-D Thankyou, thankyou for showing me the light after all these wasted 66 years. Will sit my family down and tell them all tomorrow night. And neighbours will be thrilled, though they will wonder why I knocked their doors and gave them a Plaid leaflet at last General Election :-D

Will my new party (Plaid Lloegr - England party) have any more hope in these Valleys than UKIP?

PMSL@Hayley :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

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18 Jan 2013 18:16

I don't think I have ever in my life heard of an Englishman wanting to be Welsh. I expect it does happen


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John you'll have to take up Welsh citizenship!!!,,,,but you'll still be an English born bloke at the end of the day........you can not claim to be Welsh......you are the product of one Welsh parent by your own statement ,,,,,,that doesnt make you Welsh.Its just an act.

You only live there.

Hayley !!!.. :-D :-D :-D :-D,
its a good job I keep a plastic cover on my keyboard, screen needs a wipe clean though.

ROFL :-D :-D :-D :-D

I don't think I have ever in my life heard of an Englishman wanting to be Welsh. I expect it does happen. I was joking about David Lloyd-George and Saunders Lewis. Yes, they were born and brought up to some degree in England. But they knew they were Welsh, were told they were Welsh and were proud to be Welsh all their lives.

I was always Welsh myself - never even thought I could be English though probably could have played rugby for both countries. But it has always been Wales for me. Cymru am Byth. Always very proud of that - as many others are to be Scottish, English, Australian, whatever.

Put all the Genes posters who like rugby in a room watching the six nations. You would soon see which side people were on. :-D :-D

I cant see why an Englishman would even want to be Welsh, unless he had a thing about sheep :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

George :-) :-) :-)

An Englishman trying to be Welsh reminds me of a cat trying to bark ;-)

lolol MrDaff at least it proves I don't C & P :-D

MrD I would like to complain strongly about your use of yall. The rest of your post was in such good Welsh and beautifully translated. I ask - nay, demand - that you put yall in Welsh also. ;-)

There's a hole in my bucket, Dear Liza...... :-D

Arriverderci Gomer

Edit. It has just struck me that Irish is probably as phonetic as Welsh. So presumably places like Dun Laoghaire are quite easy top pronounce if we knew Irish alphabet. Ditto Scottish and other Gaelic languages. Anyone fancy explaining any Gaelic alphabets. I would be very interested - and I guess others would too.

Mr Daff, as I was someone who commented on posts being in Welsh may I just say that I wasn't upset by it just felt a bit left out because i didn't understand it. Plus being a tad nosey I wanted to know what was being said. Nothing to do with it being Welsh btw I would have felt the same if you had posted in any other language.

:-D

Ciao!!!!

Oh dear, I've been trying to steer clear of commenting. Not worked.

Beautiful place to visit - mountains to long sweeping beaches; walks through marvellous countryside and parks; castles galore; and overall, not a lot of Welsh spoken routinely. Signs etc are bilingual anyway, though you may find a pub or two that label their toilets as Merched (Ladies) and Dynion (Men) [Gentlemen is the same in both languages] and leave off the male/female figures ...

Similar to Sue, my schooling involved Latin, French, English and Welsh. Later in life it was German, then some Greek, a bit of Spanish and sufficient Italian to not starve or go thirsty! Tried Portuguese, but gave up, and have been trying Irish just so I don't appear a total fool when asking directions to places whose spelling bears only passing resemblance to the pronounciation !!! (I'm talking about e.g. Dun Laoghaire, BC )

My apologies if I have upset anyone by including Welsh in my posts, it was not intended to do so and was, generally, purely a riposte.

Sue: 9/10 - It's gwelWch .

That's it from me, so

Prynhawn dda (Good afternoon)

cadw'n ddiogel ac yn iach (Keep safe and well)

cael diwrnod braf, y'all (Have a nice day, y'all !!!)

Peidiwch â gadael i'r coco / eira malu chi i lawr! (Don't let the cocoa / snow grind you down!)

Diolch i chi (Thank you)

Au revoir ....

And knocks snow off Sky dish by holding broom in teeth :-D

Have edited my Welsh language post last night that your reported, AnnC. Hope that explains it sufficiently. Diolch yn fawr (ta) :-\

sits on hands ;-) ;-) ;-)

Thanks Sue. That Welsh is fine.

You should find in Welsh speaking areas that people smile if you have a go like that. And you get your cup of te (pronounced tay or day) or coffi (pronounced same as English but just Welshify it a bit :-D)

Ble mae ty bach? (Where is little house ie toilet) is useful.

As is "gai sgod a slod plis"? May I have fish and chips please? Gai pronounced like "Guy" in "Guy fawkes". Sgod is short for pysgod (fish) and slod for "slodion" (chips). Then diolch yn fawr (thankyou) or you could use "thanciw" if not confident.

Have lived in many places in my life. But North Wales for more years than anywhere else (over 20 in Bangor, Moelfre, Llanddulas and Wrexham area) and 6 years nearly in South Wales Valleys (Rhondda). Have lived in Wales for nearly as much of my life as David Lloyd-George (an Englishman born in Manchester according to some definitions on this thread).

Am very proud of my English father who came from Wolverhampton (Radnorshire and Shropshire were his roots). My football team has always been Wolves and am proud of that city. But Welsh is what I have felt all through my life - Wales is where I have always tried to live and work. And Wales is where I will die and be buried. :-)

I have been reading back a few pages and it's a shame that the Welsh quoted on here is totally useless in every day life.

The Welsh on Shaun's thread is at least a) easy b) useable so the Welsh speakers on here really missed a trick. Giving useful phrases that will get you massive brownie points if you use them.

I'll give one because then I will have brought this thread back into the real world.

de gyda llaeth ond dim siwgr os gwelch yn dda.

tea with milk but no sugar please.

Now as long as you say de, llaeth, dim siwgr clearly and use plis insead of os gwelch yn dda, you'll get what you want even if you slur the rest...lolol

The trick is to give full instructions at the start.No good asking for a cup of tea then being asked in Welsh if you want milk or sugar, recipe for panic..lolol

Now my Welsh isn't great (I'm lazy) so I have absolutely no objection if someone wants to correct me :-)

Better not speak Strine on the Aussie thread (the one that has more British people than Aussies on it) :-\