General Chat

PP,

I can stop and start smoking just as I wish when I set my mind on it,,,,,,,,I just dont dwell on that I aint got or had a fag ,I still would like one but divert and say NO,

but never say I cant,,,,,,,you can you have it in you to become boss.....

Kay .. good for you , but I do think you have a very narrow minded idea about drug and alcohol abuse .. if you can , divert your craving for Nicotine completely and quit if it's obviously that simple.

This is a genuine question, even though I am coming from the POV of a non smoker.

I had, as an example, two friends, one who was a 100 a day smoker who just quit completely,cold turkey, on the day they were told they would be dead in a few years ( aged then about 30) .

The other friend has tried all everything for years incl hypnosis, to quit and failed, despite knowing that because of smoking they lost a parent very young ( edit and could possibly follow suit) .

Why If it is not 'will power' that makes the difference could one do it and one not ? I have a theory, but wonder what other people think?

It depends on the person Rose and the situation they find themselves in at the time.
If someone told me when I was a smoker , the very next fag you light up will definately give you a horrible desease and you will die , no doubt.. the very next fag is the one that will kill you 100% I probably would have stopped there and then.
If I am aware that there is a 'risk' that I may die a horrible death 'sometime' then it is easier to say , 'well maybe not just yet and one , two another packet won't make any difference'

i went cold turkey last july, due to pressure of baby S, due to us seeing first hand the effect smoking can have on someone, and being skint

i just decided i was packing in, i have had the odd one on a night out, but never had one during the day, since, july 10th last yr,

i applied for a smoking pack, but the little stickers kinda were watsed on me being a grown up, but babyS loved them lol

Well done Stray.. cold Turkey is darned hard
x

I think it's not just about will power, Anyone who knows me will tell you i have enough for several people,

I comes down to what i said earlier, It's not a one size fits all situation everyone is different

Roy

Think what I was trying to get at was that if someone smoking a 100 quits more 'easily' than someone smoking 20-30 then looking at in terms of physical addiction to nicotine is never going to work? bear with me I'm rambling as I think lol

I went cold Turkey early last July and I think with me personnaly.
If a dcotor said I would get cancer of the lungs and die if I carried on smoking then I may have stopped smoking.

But a person has got to want to stop smoking for their own benefit and not be nagged into stopping.

I was smoking 35/40 a day and I have saved over £3,000.00 since last july.

Sue

yes it wasnt easy, especially weeks 4-7, i got a nasty black cloud, and i could have so easy reached for a cigarette to make it go with it, but i never, and seeing littleman being so proud of me, was worth it,

i dont even think about cigs now, unless im drinking with a certain friend, "the one who got me smoking all them years ago" so it defo a pychological thing for me i think x

when i packed up in '78,

I said............I am not Buying anymore.............i finished what I had.........and that was it........was hard for a while...........but cold turkey......if you like.....you have got to know in your mind that you want to stop......no good thinking " oh maybe i might" ............positive thinking!! was the answer, in MY case

Just backspaced a long rambling post about smoking during pregnancy.

But it got too personal..so I will condense it and say that the only time I've never even needed to read alan carr or have patches was the times I was trying to conceive....would NOT have risked the health of my baby for anything.

As for gving up now......yep...i will just wake up one day and say RIGHT that's it........and stop.(well read the book at least...I usually stop by about chapter 5) that's what's happened when i've stopped without being pregnant before.

BUT

No amount of nagging, scary adverts, locking cigs away or shoving me outside in the cold will make me ready .....far from it...it's water off a ducks back..I will do it when my head knows it's strong enough to allow me to do it successfully.x.

~But the question , should packets be plain?

no, each brand should be identifiable..............

lets propose to the MPs that their rosettes are all the same style and colour...........

that would put all the rogue mp's in the same basket wouldnt it?

One piece of advice to those who do smoke - no matter what the brand and the length of the cigarette do NOT smoke past the print - that is where the danger lies and the concentrate etc.

I had a friend who smoked 60 a day, He caught pneumonia and stopped smoking over night, he told me that the doctor used a camera to check his lungs for damage, The doctor said to him after the lung inspection, It's a good job you don't smoke because it would have killed you had you been a smoker? he stopped using the cold turkey method no problem,

about a year later whilst i was having a fag he came to me and said how come when you take a drag, why do you take a deep breath, i said because when i smoke thats what i do, he said well i never inhaled when i smoked,

That is one such explanation

Roy

I'm an expert at giving up, done it loads of times.

Last time was using Zyban. I had terrible side effects, so I ditched the horrrible things and had a ciggie to feel better.

I called the Quit line once, told them I was totally addicted. Things were going fine for about a month, then got a call from a Quit supervisor....... and was told I was off their list because I was taking too long. Thanks for the support.

I've also tried the chewing gum & a hypnotherapist. He was a nasty man :-P

It's the only filthy habit I have. lol

Roy - love the story about your friend - and the doc not knowing he smoked.
Similar thing happened to me when I had chest pains and they carted me off to hospital. Thry couldn't work out what was wrong - lung x ray okay, heart okay (but Blood pressure very high) Only when I coughed (as I was very dry and they wouldn't let me drink) was I asked if I smoked. Then (of course) that was the problem!!
Being bullied at work had (apparently) no causal effect on my wellbeing - it was all to do with the fags!!
I have since moved away from the poison dwarf at work, and still smoke.
Since that time I have been diagonsed with having one kidney and diverticulosis - neither of which can, I believe, be caused by smoking.
If I am diagnosed with emphasemia in the future, I know this disease is hereditary - my father had it at the age of 10 - before he ever started smoking. Not smoking may delay it - but if your names on the bullet.....

I may die early , but I may also avoid, by my early death , alzheimers and dementia - other 'strains' on the NHS.
Just as an aside, my Bil died of Mesothelioma - the 'death warrant' asbestosis, aged 58 - and he'd never worked with the stuff- but those around him had. My ex was working with him at the time, and they both lived with me and my sister - so I, my ex and sister have that little 'glitch' to live with.

RamblingRose,,,

I always stopped smoking while pregnant and we barred all smoking in the house afterwards....my kids have also done the same thing...

BUT my (now)exhusband tried to stop (while I was preggy) and he ended up with ulcers all through his mouth and oesophagus.

For some reason his system could not handle the withdrawals....and he tried the patches, lollies the gum and everything...

I think like with all things it just hits people in different ways..

Kellie

Hi maggiewinchester,
In regards to
""Just as an aside, my Bil died of Mesothelioma - the 'death warrant' asbestosis, aged 58 - and he'd never worked with the stuff- but those around him had. My ex was working with him at the time, and they both lived with me and my sister - so I, my ex and sister have that little 'glitch' to live with."""

In Aussie j(not sure about elsewhere) ust as many wives died from asbestosis as their husbands who worked with asbestos...
Apparently the men brought it home from work on their clothes,,,,and their wives shaking out clothes and checking pockets etc would breathe in the fibres...

Kellie

Bobtanian,
What I hate now is unless you know which "colour" you smoke....((used to just say packet of XXX 8's)) now you have to know the colour or you may get 16's.

When they first dropped the 'limits' and started with colours I went to buy my regular 8's.....and noone had any idea what 8's were.....only choices were gold, blue or red??????????????

What happens to those cutting down etc when there is NO identification to what strength you purchase???
Just throw me a pack with no name or brand on them????

Kellie