General Chat

They can do all they like, but if people want to smoke then smoke they will !,hiding cigarettes in supermarkets is a joke & plain packaging. What's going to be next, how about a fine if anybody sees anyone else smoking !
This country is a laughing stock, but as other's have said they don't complain about the revenue they receive from people smoking. :-0

Muffy just to amend that slightly it was found that lying on side or back was safer than lying face down ( which had become a trend for some obscure reason I could never fathom)

Just my twopennorth.
But no matter what the government say or do.People will smoke wether the cartons are white or have a name on.

It's entirely up to an individual.

I stopped smoking by cold turkey early last July and I am a lot better healthwise as well as Monetary..

Sue

I started having one or two ciggies a day when I was just into my teens. It was the naughtiest thing my friends and I did back then. Thats when fags were everywhere and considered a "cool thing to do".

I live near a city that had to build a new town to accomodate the workforce of a major ciggy supplier and for decades the area flourished.

I was adamant my son wouldnt take up my BAD HABIT and glad he never did.

I now only smoke in my garden, never anywhere else cause I hated the way other people looked at me. Ive worked all my life saved for my old age never claimed benefits dont drink alcohol ( well just on hols or at xmas ) and certainly never fell out of a city centre pub on a sat night . Which takes me to say, as a classic addict as Eldrick has already pointed out, I wonder how much the cost of policing city centres on a wkend all over the country and the cost to the nhs at A and E for taking care of the stupid idiot drunks. What was wrong with pubs closing at 10.30 then onto a nice little club. Again tax and more tax

"I do try to be considerate & would never smoke in another person´s presence if I knew they objected, but I don´t feel that anyone has the right to tell me I can´t, "

How much better this would sound if written:

I am considerate and would never smoke in another person's presence-jl

So it was Rose..You're quite right....lying a baby on their front just seems so utterly ridiculous my brain obviously just doesn't compute it lol x

Janet.
I said what I meant.
I wouldn´t have any worries about smoking in the company of other smokers.
What you have written is something entirely different from what I said.

I just think that government just want to be seen to be doing something about smoking but as usual they have got it wrong

These measures will only add to the myth that smoking is cool so i fear that more teenagers will see it as the thing to do

Roy

I totally agree with that Charley, I was having a fag in the smoking area of a pub and this bloke came and stood next to me and lit a spliff, at which point i told him where to get off, I chose to smoke tobacco not weed so it's not only none smokers that can be affected

Roy

Sorry wisechild I have copied and pasted the words from your previous post-jl

Yes. I can see that.
I´m just pointing out that what you are saying is not what I meant.
I wouldn´t smoke in the presence of a non smoker who objected, but I don´t feel that anyone has the right to tell me that I can´t smoke at an appropriate time & in an appropriate place.
This has nothing to do with whether cigarettes should be sold in plain packets. I don´t know anyone who became a smoker beccause they were attracted by the packaging.

Think my point is not getting across

"I wouldn´t smoke in the presence of a non smoker who objected,"

should read:

I wouldn't smoke in the presence of a non smoker"

An objection shouldn't be raised in order for the non smoker to be considered. It should be the accepted norm. Hence the government make laws to protect polite non smokers.-jl

I have tried hypnosis , Zyban, Champix .. hypnosis lasted about 3 weeks . The other two made me give up but the side effects were horrendous so I ended up giving up the prescription drugs , which by the way were origionally created as an anti depressant and went back to smoking even more.
Then someone suggested I read a book by Allen Carr.
Once I had figured out this was not the ' Chatty man' on TV I bought the book.
Absolutely fantastic .. took me 3 attempts but everything he says makes perfect sense and this should be the way the government approach the problem people, with a smoking adiction have ,who want to stop .
As for hiding them behind metal shutters ?
I find this a little hypocritical when the supermarkets are then advertising alcohol in full view in the isles at cut down prices.

I have a number of non smoking friends who have no objection whatever to people smoking around them & who think that the non smoking laws are unreasonable.
Clearly you are not one of them.
We are all entitled to our opinions.

Wisechild I would be more convinced if your friends were writing what you think they believe and I agree we are all entitled to our opinion, that has never been an issue-jl

I've given up several times.........the first time I used patches...all the other times I read the Alan Carr book.

Still have it somewhere........when the urge takes me to give up AGAIN I'll have to dig it out because it really worked for me.......just a shame I didn't keep it to hand each time I succumbed and had *just the one it can't do any harm* on a night out and was back smoking full on again within days lol

Longest I've given up for is just under 2 yrs......what a wally to start again !!!!!!x :-S :-S :-S

There is no such thing as --cant--- if you want to quit smoking you will,and can......

I see smoking as the lesser evil of addiction,

Fags dont make the brain addled,

Fags dont make anyone a loony and out of control.

Fags dont make anyone a criminal to feed their habit.

Fags just dont have that effect.....


Drugs and Drink all apply to the above.and these present danger so programes that help wean their addiction is very much needed.

But for packets of cigarettes to appear incocnito is just plain daft as the people who want to implement it.

compared to my younger days I am suprised at how many young people dont smoke.

Charlie,

what about people who drink, do we lock them in a room so they can drink themselves to death, or people who eat too much, do we also lock them away so they can get fatter and fatter until they pop off, I think not.

We should look at ourselves before we put others down because they do something we personally don't like.

As a non smoker though, you are often made to feel like a total monster if you reply to the query "do you mind if I smoke?" with "yes I do mind to be honest" people look at you as though you are attempting to turn their life support machine off ;-)

Muffy .. just the one fag ends up costing about £75000 and you don't 'give up' anything ..
I love those points in the book. Not once are you treated like some sort of sub human leper and the minute you stop you are a non smoker .. if you start again there is no shame and you aren't a Wally x
Brilliant man who smoked 60 a day and extended his life, although the lung cancer caught up with him in the end
:-D :-(