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Any one see the Budget

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JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 21 Mar 2012 22:53

we pay the french billions to do ATOS medicals for the ESA
why cant British doctors run it is this country no longer British

we also paid a french company to add the date and programs
for the NHS and the doctors surgeries to collaborate the medical info
so your medical records
could be accessed by all medical professionals dealing with you

and after paying it
the idea was scrapped waisting billions of £s

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 21 Mar 2012 22:49

yes we have,but you will need to take out medical insurance as well as paying soon. :-D

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 21 Mar 2012 22:43

Suzanne, We have always payed for our health care,

Roy

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 21 Mar 2012 22:41

this country has been sold out to the french dam EEC
they now own our water companies gas electric and many more
even all but one of our ports is owned by the french

summit wrong there i think

this counrty has been raped no wonder its near bankrupt

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 21 Mar 2012 22:37

BE aware,the N.H.S will be privatised before you know it,our N.H.Sis on its knees at the moment,we opened the floodgates to immigration and we are going to pay for it,my jobs on the line due to cuts(im a specialised paediatric palliative care nurse) some of our cases are going over to private companys,and have been slowly for a number of years,before long we the british people will be paying for our health care. :-(

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 21 Mar 2012 22:36

I was talking to my son today and he works in the construction industry and has done work for the Olympics,

I find it hard to accept but he tells me that about 90% of the work force are migrant workers and English is the 5th most poplar language on site?

considering the sh*t we are in and the Olympics being the largest construction program this country has seen for decades that is imho criminal

Who ever gave these companies the contracts for the Olympics

I will just add this is not a dig at migrant workers

Roy

~`*`Jude`*`~

~`*`Jude`*`~ Report 21 Mar 2012 22:28

Hi Jacky :-)

JackyJ1593

JackyJ1593 Report 21 Mar 2012 22:25

Hi Jude :-)

Mads

Mads Report 21 Mar 2012 22:25

I completely agree with you Rose on those points, its the same here.

Also another point that is wrong, is the fact that my daughter who is almost 21, works full time for £14,000 with no children. A friend who does exactly the same job for the same salary gets her wages topped up by approx £80 per week with working tax credits, purely because she is over 25 (also has no children. Where is the fairness in that.

I havent heard the budget yet, its just a point.

~`*`Jude`*`~

~`*`Jude`*`~ Report 21 Mar 2012 22:22

Oh my word l agree with loads of you but certainly not a few of you!!

l find Cameron and his cronnies smarmy and basically all politicians not living in the real world.

l've not really looked at the Budget, l have the gist though, it won't do me any good other than get cross and sad and l can't do anything about it, its happened.
l have just received some leaflets re the NHS to post or put up, probably too late now:(

l have'nt voted for the past 2 yrs, which l find annoying and sad, but l don't believe in any of them. This budget is once again for the rich.
The new NHS reform is going to finish some people, its cruel.
l did send a few emails to a Lord in my area regarding the NHS, no replies at all, which l found to be very rude.

l will read more about the budget in the papers tomorrow.

nite nite


jude

Muffyxx

Muffyxx Report 21 Mar 2012 22:19

It's not the contributions from those years that are paying now though TW unfortunatley. It's what's available now..Unfair?...hell yeah !!!

NO QUESTION you have paid your way and in fact are being UNDER paid for your contribution.

BUT whilst you have the WORK SHY sponging ..and they DO exist..sorry but they do..........you'll never get what you're entitled to cos the pot is only ever going to be so big...and with the unworthy taking a share they aren't entitled to it's never going to go where it SHOULD.

It stinks. I totally agree...but years and years and years of folk feeling they were entitled when they weren't have put us where we are now and it HAS to change x

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 21 Mar 2012 22:18

I don't think that any one thinks that the state through taxation should not help people in need after all we all at some point will need some sort of benefit/help

I have worked all my life and most of that was doing between 60 and 80 hours per week
when i have not been in work as at the moment ( have not worked for the last 11 months) I live on my savings and i would not say i am fortunate to have savings because i only have them through long hours and hard work and only spending what i NEED to spend

The fact is we are where we are and we have to deal with the debt problem the alternative is to go bankrupt as a country or pass this debt on to our grand children (do they deserve that)

Roy

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Mar 2012 22:16

I could work hard and be proud of what I did 40 hours a week at basic rate and still not earn enough to rent an ex social housing house on a run down estate here.

There really has to be something done about the property market, rents now are running higher than a mortgage for the same place. If mortgages and rents are too high a proportion of a wage how is one to live? Yes with rent you can get a lot of it paid if you are on low wages, costing the taxpayer...but you can't do that with a mortgage ( that's 2 years only also costing the taxpayer) which is fine if there are jobs out there...and believe me locally the jobs I see are either specialised or part time...what use is 2hours one day a week to someone tied into a mortgage they took out when earning a decent wage?

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 21 Mar 2012 22:15

And the OAPs in this country are short changed by every government
we have ever had
some of them worked and fought to make this country great
and they are neglected by not only the government
but sometimes their families
this doesn't affect me as we have no old people in my family
but is still annoying to watch
the prices of care homes is ridiculous
fat cat care home owners screwing the old people is sickening
the government should step in and cap what they charge
because the staff who do the real work dam well don't see the money
they are on minimum wages usually

TeresaW

TeresaW Report 21 Mar 2012 22:14

So my 35 years of my own contributions count for nothing? I PAID for the care I give by my own taxes and NI in all the years I worked for it.

JackyJ1593

JackyJ1593 Report 21 Mar 2012 22:09

Obviously my reply coming after Harswell's must put me as one of those who are not considered to be backbone of the country. Quote "You will soon see by the replies that we will soon get".


I have shovelled shit literally ( I still do!) and have never been a high earner. I now have to work years more to get my pension. Just because you are now a pensioner and have worked don't put yourself on a pedestal. There are many that are more deserving to be up there.

Muffyxx

Muffyxx Report 21 Mar 2012 22:03

N. B I still haven't had the chance to fully digest the budget..I'm talking in general terms...not in specifics x

Muffyxx

Muffyxx Report 21 Mar 2012 21:57

But who else is going to PAY for that care if not the folk that work????

Doesn't mean non workers are insignificant (I am one of them)...but surely you have to look after the folk whose taxes pay for those less fortunate...else we'll end up like Greece ¬!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Mar 2012 21:55

Harswell "we the backbone" just who are "we" ? I take it I am not included in the "we" because I gave up a well paid job
( £1000 plus a month) to look after someone for the princely 'compensation' of £34 a week, someone who had never had the opportunity to make it for themselves because they too were looking after disabled relatives...( having worked all their life wherever and whenever they could from age 14 and doing a 'mans job ' in the war)

If a country ONLY focuses on those who can work, who are fit and have the fortitude to do whatever work is available then it will be a richer place in terms of money perhaps...but a much poorer place in its care for the sick, the disadvantaged and the plain unlucky.

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 21 Mar 2012 21:54

i am not saying you are Harswell
but asking what about them ??

this government are treating some of them like criminals
i know a man near us who has no legs cant get DLA
because he can walk a little bit to well on his false legs

yet i see lots of people get it who are pretending to be ill
the work shy as you put it