General Chat

I take that back - just googled and if I was a traveller I would be hightailing back to the Republic. Single unemployment benefits and that of a pensioner are about double ours.

Wonder if OH would like to move when I get better?????

It was said in the papers and media that many of them had purchased £400,000 houses in the west of Ireland and that they only visited there for Christmas/marriages/christenings.

Expect benefits are not as good as UK. They were not in the past.

If these " Activists" really believed that the reasons for their protest were valid why do they cover their faces ? !!

Yes IGP I am sure she has a lot to answer for.

The whole thing has been handled badly by the local authority and it should have been resolved years ago. Yes, they have a duty to uphold the law, but they are not gong to come out of this smelling of roses either.

Merlin, You are right about B'liar too - but didn't a lot of this rights nonsense come from his missus, and much of it seemed to get pushed through rather speedily without proper debate or public awareness. If the public had been aware how he was stitching us up he might not have got away with it.

Just a pity the powers that be could,nt get hold of a couple of WW2 Flail tanks and send them in ;-),they cleared minefields with them so a few travellers and their caravans would,nt take long. :-S

Also the people living legally on Dale Farm. They are going to have to live with the repurcussions of this for a long time too.

Agree with all of you. Know a few travellers and they are not impressed with the Dale Farm outrage. We had them cutting metal bollards in our last place of abode, to get onto a field for camping, leaving it with horse excrement all over, and a huge pile of branches from their tree jobbies.

Previous to that, they camped down the lane from me as there was a standpipe nearby. The lane was covered in tins, rubbish, loo roll, and anyone having the cheek to drive past was truly intimated, and we were the rate and mortgage paying residents.

Let us hope it all dies down soon, now the mouthy ones have had their TV coverage in recent programmes, and people living around Dale Farm get their lives back.

The reason they are here is because they have it easy here,in Ireland the Guarda move them on right away.as has been said, the,re supposedly Travellers ,so Travel. the quickest and cheapest way to remove them years ago would have been to get the Inland Revenue, Tax men and have the police check the documents on all their vehicles and make them produce reciepts for all these things. However the "Human Rights Act" introduced by Tony B-Liar,prevented this.As for the "Yobboes" demonstrating ,round them up and charge them with rioting,Just a shame the Riot Act was discounted years ago.**M** :-S

Sky poll 92% of respondents agreed with the eviction. One respondents telephone bill will be HUGE!!!!!!! ;-)

I suspect they're out to blame them for whatever they can ! x

Will they try and blame the Police for the caravan fire ?

They're already claiming ill treatment...the hand wringers would pass out in a dead faint if the army turned up..they're already aghast at the thought of the police actually protecting themselves by use of a taser !!!!!!!!!!!!...

..Apparently... of the 6 seeking medical help only 2 agreed to hospital treatment.....hmmmmmm...one of the ailments was a nose bleed. Poor me dot com en masse imho x

Wonder where the "alternative bricks and mortar accommodation" found for them was located.

Might have to consider changing my garage into a dwelling ;-)

This is the first year since I moved to this town that we have not had travellers on the local sport field. Due to the expensive work carried out by the council on the boundary of the sports field. Last year the travellers cut a long stretch of wire fencing to get onto the field

Got no sympathy for any of them. They are in the wrong.

Send in the Army. At least the forces would get some extra combat experience.

As I was brought up to understand - romanys commonly known as gypsies had their own way of life, they worked on the land etc and left it as they found it. However the Irish tinker (now known as travellers) is a different kettle of fish.

They camped on a field in this village some time ago for a few weeks, it cost the owner £3000 to get it cleaned up. They had used it as a toilet etc etc.

If they were to clean up after themselves then perhaps there would not be the amount of feeling that there is against them.

I think travellers occupy a different place in Irish society. I don't really know what it is there but the Irish economy has always been very different from the English.

English gypsies traditionally filled a place that is now occupied more by Eastern European labour, casual work and harvesting that made their mobility very useful. Unfortunately our economy has evolved in such a way that it is no longer such an asset.

the behaviour of the "activists" is appauling, im speechless!

Very true Sharron.

But these are mainly Irish travellers. I would think the Romany fraternity would not like to be associated with them. I read a book recently in which it was stated that the advent of the Irish and other 'travellers' ruined the real Romany gypsy life for genuine gypsies.And many of the Roamny gypsies then moved into houses.

Those being evicted have not made things any better for the travellers on the other half of the site. They were willing to compromise and live within the law.

No doubt it would be possible for the people from the illegal part of the site to do the same thing and find a site they could buy and develop within the law.

They are a racial minority but this is not really about that. Nobody can rent out a bit of their garden to some distant relative as a home.

With luck, this will mean that no property developer can gain unfair advantage with planning applications by citing his Romany ancestry, however spurious.