General Chat

When I watched the mother (who said jog on ) being interviewed on tv news I would have gladly turn a hose on her myself....what a 'loving mother' :-(

well the fire service have water hoses - a good soaking in cold water should do the trick just as well though it probably won't knock them off their feet - some of them looked as if they could do with a good wash anyway

I suppose the defence lawyers next excuse for the looting of Digital TVs will be that they are required to go with the Satellite dishes which are of course a human right. :-S :-S :-S :-0 ;-)

You really couldn't make it up................

Rose I agree I lost count the amount of times I seen on FB people saying that there was rioting and looting in my home town, now I was working a late last night and come home through town not a thing, alsorts of reports where going on that ******* my local town was well on fire, I think there was a certain misunderstanding as manchester is known as town and so is the local town bepending on which part of manchester you are from, needless to say that wasnt so much as cig dimp on the pavements this morning...

I'm pretty sure i read somewhere that some were stored at lambeth?..x

Joan do not believe they have water cannons here - however they are in N. I. - hence they will be ready at 24 hours notice.

Some totally useless t****r on the tv just now in Salford, saying everyone should riot again tonight, because: "there's no jobs, it's all these Polish people coming over here taking jobs" when pointed out to him that looting and destroying businesses wasn't going to keep or bring jobs..."well that's up to them",
Thick!

Is it something they're putting in the water?!

There's a lot of stuff on FB suggesting that there is 'local' trouble but it's all made up.... eg, "there are 30 youths gathering at ***** shopping centre which is being boarded up" but there aren't, it's just to get youths to go down there. to look and then no doubt wind them into action.

Not sure that members of the army would want them joining them in afghanistan. Can't imagine they would be able to rely on their support in a crisis. Dependable, team worker, level headed? Not any of these are they. Send them to boot camp but not to the army.

If the culprits are under a certain age, their parents should be charged with child neglect, as they are allowing their children out to join in the rioting and looting. The older culprits should be sent to boot camp, then off to Afghanistan. If they want to fight, then they'll be in the right place.

The teaching assistant let slip the Metro paper, and actually showed his own face. He should be instantly sacked from his job. As for those pleading for bail, due to having interviews, you have no chance of a job now with a record for rioting, but will still expect the government to pay you dole money, and housing benefit.

The country suffers even more, as the employers whose premises have been destroyed, have no work for them, and all our home insurance premiums will take a massive jump to cover the payouts.

Grampian police have now sent down officers to help out.

Alexis Bailey will be sentenced by the Crown Court at a later date.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/08/10/london-riots-teacher-31-pleads-guilty-to-looting-as-court-cases-start-115875-23334652/

Gwynne

No JC, Roy was right , two different people...

There are sky news reporters tweeting now from the courts where these cases are being heard.

Mostly from what i've seen so far..the vast majority are teenagers who are grizzling and begging to be given bail as they've got a job interview/exam/meeting blah blah blah.

My heart bleeds............not ! x

They will remand them where possible to keep them off the streets.

It is to be assumed that those in employment will suffer larger fines (and pay them) via attachment of earnings if necessary or bailiffs calling.

That way the tax payer does recoup a tiny fraction of the costs of reinstating the infrastructure.

Those offenders who are being charged to appear in a higher court will get a stronger sentence than those being fast tracked.

The vast majority of them aren't being given bail.and are being remanded in custody...woman reporting in court on sky says she's never known a judge be as strict as he's being today.

Good news !

Rita, The 19 year old who was given 1 day in prison and released because of the time he had been in custody was not the school teaching assistant who has to appear in the Crown Court later

Roy

But even Insurance companies can do it Rose, and I bet they wiil, you know how tight they are in paying out claims,they won,t be slow to jump at this chance.**M**.

They are just talking about insurance on news Merlin...if you don't have an insurance policy you can indeed claim through the relevant police authority if you can provide details that damage was caused due to riot.

Well I,m back again having a look, I,m glad it is stll on and everyone is having a chance to say what they think without any nastyness.I read in the Paper today that some young women were giving orders as to what they wanted to get.Bit much really, but as people say Its Thuggery and Theft on a very grand scale and should be stopped.The Riot act was recinded some 30yrs ago but there are other means that could be used such as declaring Martial Law in certain places where deemed necessary,and do as they do in other countries call in the Military useing the amount of force needed to quell the rioters. One thing not mentioned by anyone is, We are responsible for paying all the costs of this. The 1886 Riot Damages Act allows Insurance Companies,Individuals and Businesses to reclaim losses from local Police Authorities,Which are funded by the public,(As far as I know its still in force")also most Insurance rates may go up to cover the losses.So brace yourselves to be hit in the pocket yet again.(And the Government will gain by the extra tax on insurance.We lose all round**M**

Hello Uggers :-) Hope you're in a 'safe' area.

First person through the courts today for looting is a primary school teaching assistant..... it's a much deeper-rooted problem than alienated youths or race, or poverty ( though they are all relevant to an extent) ... it's a disregard in all strata of society for honesty, ethics, and compassion. (imo).

Can't help but wonder how many 'honest upright citizens' would take a free gift of a new telly if one was left on their doorstep....looks at self in mirror and wonders.... :-0