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Certain people here do not deserve a response....ignorant, intolerant and uneducated

But there for the grace of god.... and you dont need to believe to understand what that means, I hope!

My Daughter works with people with Drug and Alcohol Addiction and Prostitutes,Homeless etc.
I'm glad she hasn't seen Burton's response to Amy Winehouse's death.
We don't even know yet why she died!

I may not be expected to but I feel very sorry for Amy. I'm pretty sure she realised what she was doing to herself but was unable to pull out of that awful downward spiral that is depression.

I feel for her parents who watched helplessly and tried so hard to get her help.

I feel nothing but contempt for anyone who thinks she deserved it such a tragic early death.

Gwynne

I never put her family didnt care Ice I said those close to her who are now befreting she was like a sister my best friend these have known her since she hit the music scene .she had more than her family by her side thoughout her addiction which began at a very young age and has carried on into adulthood,.........she just lived her life the way she wanted uncaring what it was doing to her family or friends now they have been left heartbroken,,,,,,,

and its wrong to assume none of us hasnt had or got an addict in the family and that we dont show compassion for anyone whos life has been destroyed by substance use and that isnt for the selfish user,,,,,,,

Burton I think you are missing the point. Nobody is expected to feel sorry for Amy but maybe we should not judge her either. Unless you have walked in somebody else's shoes you have no idea what makes them make the decisions they do. It is very easy to judge another without facts than to show understanding and compassion for a stranger.

Her parents have an extremely difficult task of coming to terms with their gigantic loss. They will be asking themselves could they have done something different to help their beloved child, they will be blaming themselves even though there is no blame to be had. It is a tragedy that someone so young has had there life snatched away. Yes Amy did have many opportunities to get the help necessary to overcome her daemons but it is not as simple as that. Some daemons are very deep seated and you can think you have overcome them only for them to resurface and drag you down further than you ever been before. I choose to show compassion for Amy's family and pray that I will never have to walk along the path they have trodden and now tread. RIP Amy

So far the postmortem has'nt showed she died from an overdose. Another test to be done, but don't know when!!

jude

I can understand to some people she might have seemed like a 'waste of space' but she was loved unconditionally by her family and by the many fans who bought her music. Watching a loved one go through the hell of addiction and rehab is an absolute agony. I lost someone very close to me through an alcohol addiction last year and he certainly wasn't a waste of space. In fact he was a kind, loving and gentle man loved by all who knew him and still missed terribly every day. He suffered with deep depression, and sadly, alcohol was his way of coping with day to day life and the problems that come with it.

Burton you are lucky if you have never known the pain of witnessing someone you love and care about suffer in this way and after doing everything you can to help them lose them. What if it was someone you cared deeply about? Would you turn your back on them or keep hoping that this will be the time they get clean, stay off the drink etc.

The devastation left behind when someone dies like this is so painful to all who knew them.

Everyone is assuming Amy has died of an OD,,,,,,,this maybe not the case......she could have suffered a heart attack!!brought on by substance use over a long period of time......how those who are close to her will be wollowing at their loss but why the hell didnt they care enough? and if its been an OD then the person/s who supplied her last fix I hope is riddle with guilt for a life time........but she had the last call to get cured many moons ago but like she sang,,,,,,,Rehab.....No No No..........she lived her life as she wanted ,if its been her demise then shes been happy with it.........and done it her way.

Burton...you certainly don't have much compassion do you, if any!!

jude

RIP Amy loved your music and was glad to see they showed you attending your god daughters gig who you loved so much. X



Rob

I can't pretend that I liked her music (from what little I've heard) but enough people have said that she was a great talent for me to accept that...However I feel compassion for her family and friends, and sorry that a young, promising life has ended in such sad circumstances. Addiction, in any form, is a huge strain, both on the individual trying to battle it, and their loved ones who only want to help and support. Some people overcome against huge odds but sadly some, like Amy, don't.

Burton, one day you may need people to show you compassion for whatever reason. I hope they do. But what goes around comes around.........

You do indeed Burton ( make your bed that is) ...my mistakes in life have been different to Amy's, and i don't pretend to understand why someone even considers starting taking drugs when they have talent and family and friends to live for, but I do understand a little about depression...and escape from the black pit is tempting...by whatever means.

It does sadden me that someone who had the means to find help couldn't ultimately take it, when there are those who don't have the chance to get help for their addictions who might manage to get clean and have a life .But that doesn't make it any less sad that a young life has gone, nor lessen my sympathy for her family and friends.

Actually Burton I personally feel we should feel sorry that she got herself to a place she couldn't get out of. Nobody when they take the first drink or the first sniff or tablet think they will get on a downward spiral they cant control.
I have a close relation who has a drink problem that they are in denial of but the addiction is such they HAVE to have another and another drink. Drugs and drink make the body addicted so much that not having the next fix is agony. Its not all in the mind but a physical craving too that has to be satisfied

Feel sorry for Amy. well yes I do ,and for her family who have lost a loved daughter

Spot on TootyFruity.
Any young life lost to drink or drugs is a tragedy.
I hope that the media will leave her family alone to grieve.

There will always be some 'friend' who wants to make a fast buck.

Human Nature to some.

So sad.

Well said TootyFruity

The Guardian/Observer....take a look at the headlines today, no big mention of Amy but the news on Norway

The Times....headlines Norway but a bigger image of Amy

The Mail: Amy Amy Amy

Sunday Mirror.....Huge images of Amy and they have dragged up past users

Sheesh....thank gowed the NoTW has gorn!

Another option


Buy none ----------------Read None


Here in my region of Spain and I am told lots of others --- no one buys newspapers --

when I went to my little village school -- I asked my elderly friend --a brilliant historian -- Do you buy a Newspaper --

He huffed and puffed and said - No ¿ What for

- a few Bars have a copy --in case a client wants to read it ---but our morning breakfast Bar never ever had a newspaper --and it was a large Bar

As a consequence ------we do not have the Newspaper Reporter Melee

the TVs yes ----------

It is, always, as it was, and will be. -------- Supply and Demand

I agree MTG but I guess it's 'how' we talk about her.... and the media.....scum, the lot of them and I'm a Guardian reader, the best option I could think of!

Bless her <3