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Trying to find Mary in 1891:

1891 England Census
Name: Martha Simmons
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Camberley, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Frimley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: York Town
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: Barossa Lane

Occupation:

Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Frimley
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Simmons 25 - Carter; Yorktown
Emily Simmons 23
Mary E Simmons 1
Ellen Shanks 30 - visitor; single; Chatham Kent [possibly Ellen Simmons]
William Foy 24 - lodger
Martha Simmons 11


Marriages Dec 1884
MUNT Elleanor Farnham 2a 187
Shanks Robert Farnham 2a 187 <<<<<<<
Sharp William Farnham 2a 187
Simmons Barbara Ellen Farnham 2a 187 <<<<<<<

what do you reckon for this death for Mary?...would put her in right place for burial in Camberley

Deaths Sep 1895 (>99%)


Simmons Mary 56 Farnham 2a 62

Updated Simmons family above.

Ozi

oh well done Ozi :)) what does it say for his occupation on that?

1881 England Census
Name: Mary Simmons
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: North America
Civil parish: Frimley
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: Barossa Common
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Frimley
Household Members:
Name Age
John Simmons 61 - College Servant & Pensioner <<<<; Cty Tyrone, Ireland
Mary Simmons 44
Ellen Simmons 24 - Chatham, Kent
Margaret Simmons 7 - Camberley, Surrey <<<<<
William Simmons 5 - Yorkshire Town, Surrey
John Simmons 4 - Barossa, Surrey
Martha Simmons 1 - Barossa, Surrey
Thomas Simmons 16 - son; General Labourer; Yorkshire Town, Surrey

Next door:
1881 England Census
Name: Thomas J. Simmons
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Walingford, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Frimley
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: Barossa Common
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: College Servant
Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Frimley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas J. Simmons 26
Mary Ann Simmons 29
Annie Simmons 3
Joseph F. Simmons 1
Thomas W. Simmons 1

??????

Marriages Sep 1852
EDMEADS Mary Ann Medway 2a 424
England Aaron Medway 2a 424
McLoughlan Mary Medway 2a 424
MCLOUGHLANE Mary Medway 2a 424
SIMMONS John Medway 2a 424

Possibly married John Simmons because ....

1881:
Aaron England Mary A. abt 1831 Rainham, Kent, England Head Gillingham, Kent

sounds likely Kay?

I am just putting this on again so I can refer back to it...for Mary , trying to find a marriage for her that would put her in India for the mutiny

1851 England Census
about Ann McGlockland
Name: Ann McGlockland
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Female
Where born: Brompton, Kent, England

Civil parish: Gillingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Brompton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Henry McGlockland 38
Bridget McGlockland 34
Mary McGlockland 15
Elizabeth McGlockland 10
Ellen McGlockland 7
Ann McGlockland 4
Henry McGlockland 2

there is 1911-------
annie tyler one month,,,military,,,,,,connection?

Ouch...nasty..slipped disc's...take it easy.

Regards Vera

Just poped on say thank you for all your help so far ,and will look again in the morning as have to try and get some rest with having slip disc and were 1 hour ahead of the uk,but if we can get this sister Mary it would make my day have tried for so long to find her
Dutch

1911

Clutching at straw time !!!!

no occupation for Alfred Shaw..
FORRESTER, James Head Married M 36 1875 Farm Labourer Crouch Kent VIEW
FORRESTER, Editha Wife Married F 37 1874 Bromley by Bow VIEW
CARTER, Harriet Stepdaughter F 12 1899 School Platt Kent VIEW
CARTER, Glads Stepdaughter F 10 1901 Platt Kent VIEW
CARTER, William Stepson M 6 1905 Platt Kent VIEW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SHAW, Alfred Boarder Married
20 years M 50 1861 London VIEW
>>>>>>>SHAW, Aney Boder Married F 56 1855 London VIEW
HOLLMAN, Horace Boder Single M 40 1871 Labour On Farm Ightham Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3989 Reference:
RG14PN3989 RG78PN152 RD48 SD2 ED8 SN159

Registration District:
Malling Sub District:
Wrotham Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Ightham

Address:
Rock Road Boro Green County:
Kent

REgards Vera

One of Ann's son's 1891

1891 England Census
about Frederick Tyler
Name: Frederick Tyler
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Aldershot, Barraks

Civil parish: St Sepulchre
Ecclesiastical parish: St Sepulchre Without
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Saffron Hill
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Button 40
Jane Button 39
William F D Button 14
Henry Button 11
Joseph Button 8
Auther Button 2
Frederick Tyler 13

I also saw that on another part of the thread......

Regards Vera

But where is Annie in 1911....maybe she was a suffragette........

Regards Vera

Oops...Reading back Shirley found that census and already posted :) but it does confirm the son's surnames as Tyler so makes it easier to find them later

Brilliant Vera!!


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1881 England Census
about William Tyler
Name: William Tyler
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Aldershot, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: St Mary Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Kinloch St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Schr

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 38b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Tyler 40
Annie Tyler 33
Ellen Tyler 13
John Tyler 10
Elizabeth Tyler 7
William Tyler 5
Frederick Tyler 3
Charles Tyler 10 months


So that's all the sons named in the paper article!

so that could be the son Vera, that's helpful if it is might place him in 1881

I wonder if this is William Tyler in 1861, he was 24 when he married Ann, ...I'm trying to work back to work forward lol

ame: William Tyler
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Soldier
Gender: Male
Where born: Newport, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Shalford
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Hambledon
Sub-registration district: Cranley
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page

1911

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TYLER, William Married ? 35 1876 London Paddington VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6336 Reference:
RG14PN6336 RD112 SD2 ED13 SN9999

Registration District:
Andover Sub District:
Amport Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
South Tidworth

Address:
Bhurtpore Barracks South Tedworth Hampshire County:
Hampshire

REgards Vera

It could be that she took a few years off her age in when she remarried. Samuel appears to have a wife Sarah in 1891