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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 20 Feb 2010 10:16

For heaven's sake Ginny - they're things you look at stars or even Fairies with!!! Cx



(somthing to do with viruses......!)

TeresaW

TeresaW Report 20 Feb 2010 10:15

Pass....all I can find is reference to the Scopes Trial here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopes_Trial

But what that's got to do with the price of bacon in Denmark is beyond me.

Gee

Gee Report 20 Feb 2010 10:02

Thanks Teresa. Now, next question

What is Scopes?

Edit;

Thanks again. I read the trial too and thought; what the hell has that got to do with anything? Which then made me think I must be on the wrong lines!

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AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 20 Feb 2010 10:02

As I said in my post at 03.30 this morning while you were all snoring. I went back to the site and had another look around. I was very intrigued by the info and feedback contained under the "media coverage" heading on the left hand side. (well media something). There are quotes from all over the world, as reported in media outlets, about the site, its content and how it is rated. Some good, some bad but all giving a clear opinion of what the site is trying to achieve.

TeresaW

TeresaW Report 20 Feb 2010 10:01

If the question is illegal....does that make the answer illegal too?

Therefore, is it illegal to have an opinion on something?

TeresaW

TeresaW Report 20 Feb 2010 10:00

Sorry Ginny, Dame is Fairies r us.....it's the name I know her by.

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 20 Feb 2010 09:59

I am wondering which questions are illigel as I answered them all honestly..

Gee

Gee Report 20 Feb 2010 09:56

Cyn

I'll vote for the 'Donkey'. Which box do I cross?

Thanks Hayley.

Ginny
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PS Who's Dame?

TeresaW

TeresaW Report 20 Feb 2010 09:55

I have to say I am a little curious as to what Dame thinks will be done with all this anonymous political opinion?

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 20 Feb 2010 09:52

Hey, AuntySherlock, I use the nozzle on my vacuum cleaner for getting rid of them there crumbs!!! lol Cx.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 20 Feb 2010 09:51

Hi Ginny and Cynthia, This is called Snap I believe. Sorry I have repeated your excellent advice. I think the subject has been more than adequately covered. Do you wish me to delete my lot or shall we leave it all there?? Oh golly gee I've just remembered whose thread we are on, clean forgot. Sorry you will have to go with overkill and have it all left exactly asit is writ.

Sorry TeresaW. Missed your input as well. EDIT

TeresaW

TeresaW Report 20 Feb 2010 09:49

Ohhhh Dame, there is more of your personal information on THIS site than there is on that one FGS.

As Ginny said, every site you visit places a cookie, so nothing new there. Also, no actual personal information is given on that site, only opinion. Something we all have a right to have. They can't use it for anything even if they did record ANONYMOUS results. It'll only give them a general overview of public opinion.

Wow fancy that, someone collating differing opinions from around the world. Groundbreaking stuff indeed......NOT.

Wind your neck in Dame, and actually READ the site.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 20 Feb 2010 09:48



Just in case anyone has any concerns about adding a cookie to their computer, and I know the crumbs can be a darned nuisance, they are quite easy to remove, if you so desire.

If you google "deleting cookies", there is sufficient easy to follow info there. If you have a decent virus scanner, or a spyware program, it probably will take care of the tiny intrusion itself and if you are like me and go via Tools, Internet Options, Browsing History, etc, etc on a regular basis, the problem?? has probably been sorted already.

Just remember if you delete all your cookies you have the confounded nuisance of logging back into all your web sites again.

And just in case you do not understand the use of cookies, and believe me, they are present everytime you log into a web site, here is the explanation of what they are and do.

"A cookie (also tracking cookie, browser cookie, and HTTP cookie) is a small piece of text stored on a user's computer by a web browser. A cookie consists of one or more name-value pairs containing bits of information.

The cookie is sent as an HTTP header by a web server to a web browser and then sent back unchanged by the browser each time it accesses that server. A cookie can be used for authentication, session tracking (state maintenance), storing site preferences, shopping cart contents, the identifier for a server-based session, or anything else that can be accomplished through storing textual data.

As text, cookies are not executable. Because they are not executed, they do not qualify as spyware or viruses[citation needed]. Anti-spyware products may warn users about some cookies because cookies can be used to track people or violate privacy concerns.

Most modern browsers allow users to decide whether to accept cookies, and the time frame to keep them, but rejecting cookies makes some websites unusable."

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 20 Feb 2010 09:46

Ginny please ignore Fairies R us as she and Janey dont get on FRU is clearly trying to rile Janey, she will laugh it off, but I do agree with what I can understand I have enjoyed the thread. lol

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 20 Feb 2010 09:46

Personally not particularly bothered F(what a jumbled name)s. I would probably give similar answers at my front door. I stand by what I believe. Also, most of us have problems.


Now, moving on.


Point one. Going back slightly Janey - I think it's fine to say that people should have freedom to do as they please as long as no one is hurt in the process because it's no-one else's business but, the problem is, so many people DO get hurt in the drugs/pornography/sex scenario and then someone has to pick up the pieces. So often I have walked alongside despairing families who have said..."what could I have done to prevent this happening?"

I don't know if you have children, but it makes me think of getting kids to clean their teeth. Responsible parents don't give their children an option about teeth cleaning, they ensure that they do it. Why, because they know from experience that the lack of cleaning will end in pain. Now, if, when they are adults, those children choose not to clean their teeth, and have mega dental probs, their parents will know that they at least tried.........!

Hope that makes sense.


Point 2. Janey, what do you think about 'ingrained' voting (not sure what to call it). I have often heard it said that in such and such an area, if you put a donkey up as a candidate they would win. This seems to happen in certain areas where families have 'always' voted for a particular party despite the fact that the opposition offer something possibly better. Is that party loyalty or party blindness?


Why am I asking? I don't even LIKE politics? - lol


Cx.

Gee

Gee Report 20 Feb 2010 09:40

fAiRiEs r uS......N.B. Most of the board folllowers realise you have problems....

Not sure what you mean by this comment or why you have posted it? We're having a good civilised debate and a comment like that may be taken as being provocative

As for gathering information and being biased. Everyone, everything is biased to varying degrees.

Everything we read, hear and see 'invites' us to have an opinion and that’s not a bad thing. The bad thing is when we don’t research the opposite view! Until we do that we can’t make an 'informed' opinion

I remember writing a research paper (which involved eliciting student views by way of a questionnaire) at work to disseminate amongst students. I can’t tell you how many times I re-wrote those questions. Each time I did my professor pulled them to pieces and told me to stop asking questions based on 'my' views!! I could have killed him near the end.....but he was right

Cookies are downloaded to your pc whatever website you go to, so there’s no news there! You can remove them if you wish and you can run software that will remove 'ghost' cookies and temp files too if you're still worried about privacy

As for the sites questions being 'illegal'..Not sure how. I’m not a legal expert but if they are illegal I’d be interested to know why?

And back to my lovely MP Sir Nicholas Winterton. He has the right to be; a sexist, a racist, an over paid snob a thief of public money...I could go on.

But, when he is in the public eye, being paid by the public then the public also have a right to hold him accountable.

Every person in my mind has a right to think and do as they choose, but NOT at the cost of others.


Ginny
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Dame

Dame Report 20 Feb 2010 08:14

N.B. Most of the board folllowers realise you have problems....

Dame

Dame Report 20 Feb 2010 07:29

Janey, just by the way, the website in question, stores information of the information they recieve...They are scounting the universal opinion of the voting conscience, they have fact worldwide, the questions are biased and somewhat illegal, it's a suryey pollitically biased...If you take the test!!!!!!! beware your personal views are now public....Wanna try it, take the test and log back in, your computer now has an extra cookie...Too late after the fact, cheers Janey, and who do you WORK for again!!!!! By the way ,I'm not that stupid, ever heard of scopes....

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 20 Feb 2010 03:31

Now that is a very interesting point Lorraine.

I wonder how our answers to the initial quiz would differ depending on the when we answered the questions.

Would a feral fit of hormonal imbalance change our positioning on the grid.

Wonder if that aspect was ever discussed before women were given the vote.

Of course men don't suffer from rampant hormones do they???!!!

EDIT. Did you click on "Media Coverage" on the left hand side. This opens into a screen which gives feedback on the site from around the world. Includes some mention of leaders who refused to be quizzed.

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 20 Feb 2010 01:04

I have the same political views a Ghandi !!!!!!!!


Tell my OH that when i have a PMT day. LOL