General Chat

We are officially in election mode. Polling day sometime early March. All the posters are up, according to council regulations of course, all the pollies are promising the earth, dunno why they have to wait for an election to try to impress us and the electronic onslaught is about to begin.

If I send a copy of the political compass to the major parties, showing them how close together are their philosophies, policies and promises, do you think they might agree to cancel the election, save thousands of dollars in wasted time and money, and share the responsibilities of government?

Now that wasn't the answer I needed!!!

And this is what I hate about politics

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8527611.stm

Is it mere coincidence that this has hit the headlines in the lead up to a GE..I think not

What really annoys me is do they think we are all stupid and can’t see the motive behind this leak. Where is the evidence that these calls actually happened?

Now, being very cynical, imagine if this pathetic attempt to undermine and discredit Gordon Brown was instigated by a Tory!

You have to laugh! My children are more subtle than this lot

Ginny
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An extract from the BBC report lmao...........

Tory MP Ann Widdecombe is a patron of the charity, whose website also displays a statement of support from Conservative leader David Cameron.



And just read through some of the info on the website and it's full of Tory's!!

http://www.nationalbullyinghelpline.co.uk/index.html

Ginny

I totally agree with you


I work in a childrens home, with for what ever reason, children who cannot be placed with foster families. I often thought some kids where just bad, but its not until you get to know them and their home lives and the people who have influenced them you understand some of their behaviour problems.

Hi Ginny, I missed that bit. I was busy dribbling my way through another thread filled with chocolate delicacies and people who think Australians still use cups as measuring containers. Thank you for taking the attitude you did.

JC............. have to agree that they really don't want to have laws that punish other people for doing them, no matter how much they themself might be opposed to them


I have to agree, but is that sitting in the fence? I don’t have an answer; I just question myself about issues like this

I’ve worked with all sorts of people as you all will have. I've been to prisons talking with young offenders to ask their opinion of things and have come away in tears (for days) after hearing the things that they have gone through

We are quick to judge, I feel

My point, as I waffle on..............do Governments (in charge or want to be) pray on our 'not' knowing

It's easy to report something 'bad' but what's behind the offence...who tells us that?

Ginny
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Cynthia, I also appreciated *having* to answer some of the questions.

I'd like to live in a porn-free world. Porn -- virtually all of it -- is degrading to women and contributes to the climate of violence against women and disrespect for women. But when it comes down to it, no, I don't want government deciding what we may read (beyond material like child porn that is demonstrably harmful in the making of it), even apart from how such laws are used to persecute minorities like gay men and lesbians, which they always have been.

Somebody of a more authoritarian bent might have to come out and say "yes" to something they wouldn't admit to in public.

But also, someone who truly dislikes/opposes some of the things the questions ask about might, like me, have to agree that they really don't want to have laws that punish other people for doing them, no matter how much they themself might be opposed to them.

And of course that's user-contributed content, but it is quite well done. I like the intro bit:



Nazism and socialism refers to a polemical, and political claim that Nazism, or the "German National Socialism" of the 1930s to mid 1940s is comparable in some way to the ideology of socialism. Political figures —in the US, Britain, and elsewhere —may at times employ the comparison as a rhetorical device aimed at discrediting pro-labor and otherwise socially liberal platforms, by implying a guilt by association between socialist economic philosophy and the tyrannical rule of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis.

While the claim has little meaning among educated scholars, the argument has some social resonance among "layman majorities" who tend to be less able to discern (or have less access to) factual claims and materials related to history and economics —easy to sway with polemic rhetoric, even if the claim has little substance or merit.



So here we are doing our bit to educate ourselves and be less susceptible to such claims. ;)

It is generally accepted practice when quoting, to acknowledge source ( otherwise it may infringe copyright)

"www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Socialism_and_Nazism/"

Good points there Lorraine, Very well put.

The Nazi party was not a socialist party but a national socialism party a whole different ball game.

Throughout its rise to power and rule, the Nazis were strongly opposed by left-wing and socialist parties, and Nazi rhetoric was virulently anti-Marxist, attacking both communists and social democrats. A central appeal of Nazism was its opposition to Marxism and other forms of socialism and its claim to be a bulwark against Bolshevism and this is why they recieved so much material and political support from industrialists and conservatives.

The Nazi ideology saw socialist collectivism as part of a Jewish conspiracy (Judeo-Bolshevism) meant to undermine the elitist principle.

Nazis proposed that only people who were considered "racially pure" or Aryan would benefit from their policies. This can be seen as contrary to the socialist ideal of a society for the benefit of all.

Too much time on their hands, that's all. Ignore it all, it's a good thread.

true to form

deletions..................

lmao

Because they are desprate for attention

OHH LOOK AT ME

I cant understand why anyone would want to spoil this thread

Hi AuntySherlock, that was an interesting read. The bit that stuck with me was:

You should have a "don't know" option

This makes it too easy for people to duck difficult issues. By forcing people to take a positive or negative stance, the propositions make people really evaluate their feelings. Often people find they wanted to select 'don't know' mainly because they'd never really thought about the idea.


Like others, I had difficulty with some of the questions because I wanted to opt out of them. I was forced to think a few things through rather than sit on the proverbial fence. It may help me to be a bit more decisive about things in the future.....!


Thanks for that. (but I know I should have really looked for myself)


Cx.

lmao get a life.....Ginny and your mate,as i f care...deleted..

Hi Ginny, now where were we?

Cx.

Why are you being so horrid fAiRiEs r uS?

Please can you stop leaving childish messages....what's the point, you're making yourself look foolish

Ginny

lmao. you can tweet her by the way...it should read twatter me ...

Dear Fairies are us.

I, personally, am quite happy to continue with this thread despite your harrassing and rather odd comments. I hope others feel the same. We can simply talk around you.

However, it does make for distressing reading and so I have reported you.

Cx.