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Hi Janey, yes I could have gone into St Paul's misogyny also ;)

re your query , on thread subject line, I don't know why that happens sometimes....but it does!

~~~~ Gwynne... got it in one there :)

maybe he got that from his dad.....or maybe his mum was a bit of a tyrant lol ?

Long time no see, Gwynne!

Yup, those are the bits in question, some of 'em. (I gave up on finding the quotes. ;) )

How much damage did he cause with those words, and are people who decide to adopt his words causing even today?

Blind spots are amazing things. Love thy neighbour as thyself, but not if she's a woman; the greatest virtue is love, but if you're a woman it's obedience and silence.

Another expression of the double standards that affect every aspect of women's lives.

I don't like St Paul. He heralds a negative change into what was a lovely collection up til then and reintroduces the judgemental nature of the OT.

Hi there, Janey!

~~~~~~~ back to Rose

Work and being a submissive wife are keeping me busy these days.

Well, work, anyway.

Gwynne

Aw......give the poor chap a break. His feelings against women have never really worried me - each to their own, but that Conversion of his, now that was something else!

Anyone remember the actor Patrick Troughton playing him in a series on tv probably back in the '60's??? We were watching a DVD of the first Morse last night and Patrick was in it. Oh, there's St. Paul was one of my first thoughts!!! How daft can you get??


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Ah ladies we must remember that not only was Paul a christian but a "Jew of Jews .... and of the tribe of Benjamin" lol he was left handed I have no problem with either of these things, but throughout his writings he uses them as if proud of them - then he also says of himself "I am the greatest of sinners" thus humbling himself but remember also that "all scripture is God breathed and proffitable .... for the soul"

Uggers he heralds the fact that "the OT is done away with and .... that all things have become new"

Not in my opinion he doesn't, Footie

http://thetajiriinstitute.com/?m=200906

In Washington, DC, on Massachusetts Avenue, just a few minutes from the White House, there is a memorial garden dedicated to Kahlil Gibran, the Lebanese-American author of The Prophet. One of the Mr. Gibran’s quotes at the memorial garden reads:

“I love you, my brother, whoever you are
Whether you worship in your church,
Kneel in your temple, or pray in your mosque.
You and I are all children of one faith,
For the diverse paths of religion are
Fingers of the loving hand of one Supreme Being.
A hand extended to all.”

lol ok but his commission came from God to do so ~ but then opinions are seen from various perspectives for instance some are saying he was a misogynist because of what he wrote yet others would say he was only writing what God had told him to - he told Timothy this in 2 Timothy 3 v 16 already quoted and also we have reference to God telling John what to write in Revelations "Write therefore what I ask of you ............... do not add to it nor take away thereof"

or going back to OT did it make Abraham a murder because it was prepared to offer Isaac as a sacrifice because God told him to?

As a fan of St Paul's, shouldn't you be doing his bidding and be silent, Footie?

Lol I should but then I should also be wearing an head scarf but they make my head itch

I don't blame you for not doing what he says either, Mel - he's not very relevant today.

Uggers I will let you in on a secret the church has forgotten to move with the times instead they tend to move in a backward direction in hope of a new reformation call me a rebel but I hate going backwards

I must apologise its very dark in here and the wind up lamp is broken :-(

Footie, if the theologizing keeps up, I shall be forced to bring Dr. Laura into the debate. ;)

Joy, that's the, er, spirit. ;)

You don't have to tell me that, Footie:) My church is trying to get more evangelical and it's very disheartening.