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Having looked the baptisms of Ann Eliza;

Name: Anna Eliza Haggis
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 11 May 1818
Father's Name: Thomas Haggis
Mother's Name: Eliza Haggis
Parish: Saint Dunstan And All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Her fathers name & occupation are the same as in the marriage record. So most likely one & the same person.

As to Eliza being her sister.

Name: Eliza Haggis
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 14 Jul 1822
Father's Name: Thomas Haggis
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Haggis
Parish: Saint Anne, Limehouse
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

I think this is probably so. Borough, parent names & fathers occupation all the same.
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And this appears to be Elizas' marriage

Name: Eliza Haggis
Spouse Name: George Porle..........surname could be Poole?
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Nov 1842
Parish: All Saints, Poplar
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Thomas Heath Haggis..........Occupation Rope maker
Spouse Father Name: Edward Porle .......... .Occupation Match maker.
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This the registration (note George surname is Poole & not Porle)
Marriages Dec 1842

BOWTHORPE Joseph Poplar 2 285
DAVISON Sarah Ann Poplar 2 285
Hooley William Poplar 2 285
PACKER Mary Ann Poplar 2 285
Poole George Poplar 2 285<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
SPENCER Edward John Poplar 2 285
Williams Elizabeth Poplar 2 285
HAGGIS Eliza Poplar 2 28[53] <<<<<<<<<<(page no actually 285 ref ancestry)

Regards,
Steve

This appears to be her marriage registration.

Marriages Dec 1837

DORREN Bridget St.George East 2 117
Green Edward St Geo East 2 117 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HAGGIS Hannah Elizabeth St.George East 2 117 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Ives George St. George East 2 117
Kittridge John Collison St. George East 2 117
POWTER Thomas St.George East 2 117
WELLINGTON Mary White St George East 2 117

Regards,
Steve

Regarding Hannahs marriage to Edward.
I think with her age being classed as a minor. Is because the age of adulthood then was 21.

Also I found a different date to the one you stated.

Name: Hannah Elizabeth Haggis
Spouse Name: Edward Green
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Oct 1837
Parish: Saint George In The East
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Thomas Haggis
Spouse Father Name: William Green


Regards,
Steve

Hi AuntySherlock. This appears to be Hannah in the 1871 census;

Name: Hannah E Green
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Anne Limehouse
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Limehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 166.....Address..89 Stainsby Rd
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah E Green 53........b1818
Ann H Green 16...............daughter b1855
Charlotte Green 14...........daughter b1857
Henry Bassinger 30.........Son In Law b1841
James Bardwell 27.........Boarder
Annie Spiers 40................Lodger

Henrys wife is her daughter Martha. As in the 1881 census Hannah is a lodger living at the same address with Martha Bassenger b1841

This appears to be Martha & her children in the 1871 census;

Name: Martha Bassinges.........Surname is a typo, is actually Bassenger on census
[Martha Bassenger]
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Poplar
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 133.......Address 27 Sabbarton St
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Bassinges 30.....b1841
Henry Bassinges 10........Son b1861
Hannah Bassinges 8.......Daughter b1863
Elith Bassinges 6..............Daughter b1865... Elizabeth (another typo, name written in short hand... Elizth)
Chas Bassinges 4............Son b1867......(Maybe Charles in short hand writting)



Regards,
Steve
:o)

Addendum: Marriage of Henry Bassinger & Martha Green

Marriages Sep 1860 (>99%)
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Basinger Henry Mile End 1c 1030<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gower Elizabeth Mile End 1c 1030
Green Martha Mile End 1c 1030<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Pook James Sanders Mile End 1c 1030
Saville Jane Maria Mile End 1c 1030

Syliva (IC). I'm in a pickle and need a fresh pair of eyes. Which is probably not the wisest statement but I'll risk it.....

waves, and ducks.

I know she of the research wizardry is busy. Wish to ask you a question??

I have Hannah Elizabeth Haggis, born about 1821 Poplar Middlesex UK. Father Thomas Haggis (occupation Mariner), no mother.

Sources are 1841, 1851 and 1881 England Census.

I have her marriage on 24 Apr 1837 to Edward Green in St George Middlesex. Father Thomas Haggis, mariner. Marriages and Banns states she is a minor. If she were born in 1821 and married in 1837 she would have been 16.

So I went looking for her birth. I'm never satisfied.

In the London England Births and baptisms 1813-1906 I have a birth for Anna Eliza Haggis 24 Apr 1818. Father Thomas Haggis, mother Eliza. The date of birth shows on the entry for the baptism on 11 May 1818 at St Dunstan and All Saints, Tower Hamlets.

If It is her birth (1818) this would make her 19 when she married.

There is also another child Eliza Haggis. Born to Thomas and Elizabeth Haggis. Baptism record shows date of birth 14 Apr 1882 and baptism 14 Jul 1882. St Anne Limehouse. Is this her sister.

Regarding the Hannah/Anna names. Hannah Elizabeth Green (Anna /Eliza Green) had a daughter Hannah Maria Green who became Anna Maria Green.

As I said, I need a fresh pair of eyes!!!

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Well it's quite obvious that the poor woman has to toil in gainful employment right up until Christmas.

Will leave this thread in a state of immobile animation until after the silly season.


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Oh it's nothing consequential. Just glad that the one I know as you is you and not someone else. And you are correct there are more.

Bit worried about Ms Janey.

Trying to think of a conversational statement which will initiate a response. Let me see.

When the Australian senate resumes early next year, if it does not pass the Emission Trading Scheme, we will have a double dissolution of our parliament and an election. This will seriously curtail our prime minister's junkets around the globe, and jeopardise a State election which has aready been arranged for March 2010.

There you go. A piece of inconsequential chit chat.

Hi AuntyS ~~~~~

I've been me for yonkers!

.............. ever since I was born in fact!!

I've had this name for most of the 6 or so years I've been on GR ... since I realised there were a number of other Sylvias AND figured out how to change my board name.

I really am in Canada, but not close to JaneyC


so I'm not sure what you're on about????


~~~~~~~~~~ Janey

The one after my whinge about squishing threads. T'was a soppy nauseating video with cute furry and feathered critters singing a Christmassy type song.

Retreats into the background!!

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You are a different Sylvia aren't you?????? OK get that glinty gleam out of your eyes. You are, you are!!

~~~~~ Aunty


which post did you delete?

That'd be right. Leave me to face the music, wondering what I've done wrong!!

Tentative small wave in general direction of Canada. Might as well include you all.

I'm in the mire for deleting my post, regardless.

sleep tight
xxx

Make that shaking in my slippers Sylvia,
Im ready to go off to my warm bed.

byeeeeeeeeeee

Viv


surely you know better than to ask what Janey is plotting :)))


Just wait and see


............ and start shaking in your shoes!


~~~~Janey




sylvia

Anyone seen the original whinger of this post recently,or is she avoiding me?

Shes been too quiet for my liking,whats she planning now?

viv;:)

It is very interesting. The number of personages frequenting these boards who are employed in the education sector.

I hate it when I squish a thread, so I will go away!!

Deletes next post and runs away.

School was ok, considering. But I'm SURE I saw the little darlings laughing behind my back. Kids can be so cruel sometimes....

Rather like The Hunchback Of Notre Dame, I have to iron my shirt, on a wok.

Oh

I make sure the OH goes out

...... he's retired but still has 2 offices, 2 phones and 2 computers out at the university!


He goes out there .... and I stay home in the warmth!


:)))



Gawd ................ I used to wear 3" stilettos regularly, and quite often 4", back in the 60s! And that involved standing at lab benches, as well as dances.


and I was 5' 8½" to start off with!!!



sylvia
xxx

Well I have two, one on each foot actually!! One I have made to retreat quite a bit by constantly pulling my toe out at an angle. The other refuses to budge.

It is the result of wearing stilletto heels during my childhood. What we women suffer in the cause of fashion.

I can also add three gnarled, knobbly toes, which have been broken at different times in my life and grown back au naturel!!

Hey I'm doing good in the whinging stakes.

And don't worry about being a crone. It is one of the most sought after roles in the plays and pantomimes!!!

And now I must be off to work. Oh noooo, I feel another whinge coming on. Why am I working at my age. I should be retired and sitting at home in my granny rocking chair. No don't answer that question. It's either work or murder the OH!!!

Hi Aunty


so I'm an old crone now am I???


you didn't succeed in digging yourself out of that one!


I only have a small bunion .................................. but it got irritated this summer, and my foot swelled to twice its size. Try getting ANY shoes on that!




sylvia