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As you know I have a support thread up on this board and the following is a reply I have just posted on it:



Thank you again for all your good wishes, although having read a certain thread on chat I am wondering if I should have been allowed to post this. seemingly people are able to feel comfortable with mocking those who ask for support. they may be lucky and live within a close community of family and friends who give them plenty of actual support, some of us are no so lucky and I take exception to the mockery However, I will not lower myself to go on the thread and say so, nor will I ask for its deletion. It just shows me who will or will not give support to those worse off than themselves.

Good morning All
Hope you are feeling better today Caz and also Joyce is feeling better.
Can we stop all this bickering and keep all who are ill in our thoughts and prayers
Love Mary xx

Please, no more. Can we stop the argueing and lets get back to the thread for Dutch's friends.

Jean I am sorry if I took your comments about doom and gloom the wrong way, it seemed to be aimed at me coming straight after I posted.

Caz xx

I am not going to get drawn into any argument here. I just want to say that I think the reason a group of us have been supporting Joyce - besides the fact that she does so much by way of collecting for little presents for people who are poorly, - is because normally when she has health problems she is in Holland. She comes on here with her health problems because she does not speak Dutch and it is scary for her going to her doctor because he doesn't speak English. It is a way for her to overcome any worries she has.

We should all learn to be tolerant at times I guess.

Elaine, I am pleased that you are feeling better, you can now look forward to your holiday.
Ann
Glos

Purple

What has my post got to do with you ?? ~ absolutely nothing, ....so please dont insinuate that it is. I was actually responding to Dutch.

I have never had a problem with you & I find your post aimed at me and my "cronies" rather upsetting when all I did was refer to Dutch's post aimed at Jean, and to answer the question she posed towards Jean as I felt it was revelent to the way I was seeing things on the boards.

If you knew half of what Jean is going through, you would understand why she posted what she did on here and at this moment both you & dutch would be pulling your size 11's out of your mouths at supersonic speed.

For the record, I had the worst few months health wise this year, and yes I do feel heaps better thank you very much.

I have no issue with Y Caz and wish her well, I am not referring to her as I'm sure Jean is not either. Ive no problem with Dutch either as a person and feel a certain amount of sympathy towards her feeling ill.

However I do stand by my thoughts in my earlier post that Dutch thrives on misery. I know we all need a little moan sometimes but not a drawn out whine, which extends to whining on other peoples behalf's, scouring the news headlines for the most morbid stories to report on. & extending that misery to other boards without thought to those who actually escape Gen Topics board to avoid the haven of sadness and misery its become of late.

Have a good day.

This started out as a friendly thread between myself, Caz and Dutch and those who know them and appreciate news of them when they can't get on line for whatever reason. The people who post on here know the two ladies in question and know what Dutch is like and her problems, as well as knowing Caz's health problems.
I really cannot see why those who don't normally have much to do with these people want to interfere, whether there are jokey tellings off for Dutch or commiserations for Caz, why are these other people coming here and moaning about the content of the thread or other threads I put up? I see lots of threads, some I read and respond to, others I read and then ignore any further, some I don't bother to read.
I fail to see why suddenly it is of such interest to everyone to come and have a go at anyone supporting Dutch. As Caz said yesterday at 18.24 - Joyce rang her for company as she was at the hospital and bored and scared. The thread is for her friends and Caz lets them know how she is doing, as do I if I hear from her or make contact with her, or Caz..

If this is a devious way to get the thread whooshed because someone has no other ones to sabotage, then I feel sorry for the people doing it. We have seen other lovely threads disappear for no apparent reason, and I am sick of it. Maybe I should go on some threads and cause unpleasantness and stir up trouble.

I always had respect for Jean and have tried to help her in the past, and have sent a message of support for Mildred when she was feeling low, I have tried never to get spiteful or nasty but am really disappointed in the people who are trying to spoil this thread, which is merely a means of communication between Caz, Dutch and friends.

Yes God helps those who helps themselves, but God help anyone who doesn't bow down to certain people on here!
I really can't be bothered to post anymore, as it obviously goes in one ear and out the other with some folk and I am sure some self righteous person will get this whooshed by the time I get back on here later on.


Liz

Jean has made it clear as did I that we were not having a pop at Caz. Jean and Elaine are the warmest kindest people you could ever hope to meet and both wear their ill-health with dignity as does Caz. You say you pay your subs and therefore can post what you choose as can others. However that curtesy has not been extended to Jean or Elaine and on top of that is the implicit threat to Jean - basically watch out for the grand-daughter.

Both Jean and Elaine have been constantly supported by their friends whenever they've needed it and we wouldn't dream of laying extra worry on their shoulders by constantly telling them all our woes. Although when one of us has been upset they are equally supportive of us.

You have told Dutch on many an occasion to seek help and to take care of herself. Does she listen?....NO. You all get annoyed with her and her lack of care for her own well-being.

By the number of PM's received it is obvious that other people feel the same way. I would never wish ill on anyone but what's the saying "God helps those who help themselves"?

Sue

Mildred, looks as if you are having a pop at me now, I don't often add to your threads but have usually supported you or sent you good wishes if you are unwell, as I have to Jean.
I really don't understand why you are bothering with this thread or don't you have anyone else to have a go at for now?

The amount of strife on the boards over the years has been stirred up by certain people most of the time and I won't name names but I steer clear of them, the little clique who think they own the boards!!!!

I know you are suffering from poor health at the mo, as is Jean so can only hope this attitude of yours makes you feel lots better cos right now, I can't feel any sympathy for you, I just want to tell you to mind your own business and go play with your cronies.

I pay my subs and can post what I chose, as do others.

Liz


I spoke with Joyce earlier and she is fed up with people having a go on here, this thread has been fine till Jean had a stir. Not sure why Jean or you decided to come on this thread but wish you hadn't bothered. All you have done is upset people especially our Caz who has never done you any harm, or Joyce to that matter.

(Apologies in advance)

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" my g.daughter shes going to post on here,her exact words were im not letting anyone have ago at my grandmother
see you next week or should i say my grandaugher will"

Dutch, that sure sounds like a threat towards Jean :o(((
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In reply to the question why does Jean think you thrive on misery, its because its all you ever post.

If you dont post something negative about yourself, its about someone else's misery. and recently you started posting about depressing news stories to add to the collection.

Very rarely do you post anything other than misery. In fact, recently not content with your misery on this board, you brought depressing & miserable threads to the chat board. - I then turned off.

Its one thing to keep people updated with ones condition, or to receive some support on the board, but the number of misery threads you post about you, others and total strangers would make a chief mourner proud.

Hi Joyce, just popping in to say, that I hope all goes well at the doctors tomorrow. I'll be thinking about you. Good Luck!

Love, Sallie.xx

Jean im sorry you feel this way but do tell me why you think i thrive on this,i can assure you its not very nice to be in pain,and ive had enough in my life.which i could go for hours but why should i, you no i could have hey my friends ive had cancer,but i dont because very good friends of mine are suffering,and i do make jokes but about myself anyway my g.daughter shes going to post on here,her exact words were im not letting anyone have ago at my grandmother,i told her if you take notice than your no better than them,and theres such alot of nice people on,mybe if i put stupid remarks on it would be ok,i can see now why so many of the nice people leave,and i may i also say i respect you Jean Durrant from afew years ago and i still think your nice lady what ever you think of me
see you next week or should i say my grandaugher will
Love Dutchxx
ps im not typing this my frirend son is

I agree with Ann - there comes a day when we all need a little tea and sympathy
Mary xx

sorry Jean, I can't agree with you this time, to me most of the thread is light hearted and Joyce is the first to laugh at herself.

Ann
Glos

Liz thank you for telling me I don't have to read the thread. That bit of knowledge will hold me in good stead and believe me I won't be reading it again as I can do without all the moaning, groaning and depression.

Caz... this is not aimed at you at all.... I realise how ill you are and I sympathise with you and wish you nothing but to get well.

To the rest of you all I will say is you are not doing your friend Joyce any favours by constantly extending sympathy in my opinion... she so obviously thrives on this.

Why don't you all laugh and joke and make this thread lighthearted and a nice place to visit and chat.

Most of us on here suffer in one way or another but we don't all moan and waffle on every day about our aches and pains.

Who was it said ...laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone.

Jean.

Hello Joyce.....oh my gawd what next?? Liz you're right she is a right wally, but a nice one:o)))


Hope you are feeling better this evening Dutch, take care:o)) lol

And you Caz, you take care aswell:o))

jude xx

Caz, please try to come back and explain about your arm, when you can, no one forces Jean or anyone who doesn't like the thread, to read it! It started out as a thread about Caz and Dutch, and has continued in that vein with a few additions, no problem to me and I started the thread.
We all know how accident prone Dutch is, but I do feel bad as I suggested she go to the hospital pretending she had had a fall so that they checked her out, cos she could have said it was due to the pains in her legs!
Joyce, you wally, I didn't mean for you to do it for real, I did say I wasn't trying to tempt fate! I am glad you haven't broken anything, can't imagine what Jan has said or haven't you told him. I bet you didn't have that stick with you either did you? You have to stop rushing about so much, and use your stick, that's an order!
And tell that new doctor everything, let him try and sort you out if he can lol

love
Lizxxxx

SueMaid, Joyce didn't ring to report another accident, I did. Joyce rang me for company as she had been sat in the hospital since nine o-clock and was bored and scared. This thread is for her friends and I let them know how she is doing.

Sallie and Mary, thanks for caring but my arm will only get worse, I've accepted it now, I tried to explain this morning what was wrong and why I wouldn't be on much but think I was accused of being a doom and gloom merchant, so deleted.

Caz xx

Hi Dutch
Glad your wrist has not been broken - although I bet it hurts. You take care and enjoy the rest of your stay in UK with your family and friends.

Caz - hope your arm will soon be better - you take care too.

Love Mary xx

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD IM NOT CARELESS I DID,NT SEE THE FLAGS WERE BROKE,HONESLY DO YO THINK I TRIP ON PURPOSE ,AND I PHONE CAZ AS SHE WORRYS ABOUT ME,LIKE MOST GOOD FRIENDS WORRY ABOUT EACH OTHER,CAN YOU TELL ME WHATS SO WRONG ABOUT THIS,JEAN I HOPE YOUR FEELING ABIT BETTER AS I NO YOU HAVE,NT BEEN WELL FOR QUITE SOME TIME,AND SOME KIND MAN GOT OUT OF HIS CAR AND PHONED FOR EMBALANCE,AND THE DOCTER WHO I WAS GOING TO GOT OUT OF HIS CAR TO SEE IF I WAS OK,GOING TOMORROW TO SEE HIM,MY WRIST IS JUST BADLY SWOLLEN AND IVE BRUISED MY CHEST WITH THE FALL ,BUT IM OK NOW,SO PLEASE MY FRIENDS DONT WORRY AS EVERYONE DOS,NT THINK ALONG THE SAME LINES THAT WE DO,WILL BE BACK ON LINE WHEN IM BACK HOME WITH MY G,DAUGHTER AND HER BOYFRIEND THERE FLYING BACK WITH ME FOR MY BIRTHDAY,TAKE CARE EVERYONE
LOVE DUTCHXX

Caz, I hope you will feel a bit better soon. Take care, and rest as much as you can! Thank you for letting us know about Dutch. Hope she's told the doctors about how she keeps falling and about the pains in her legs.

Speak later.

Sallie.x