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Well, I almost agree.

If I step out in front of a bus, there is no reliable and proven evidence to show that it is going to run me down, or that I will die if it does.

I still might not want to take the *risk*!

That's the real issue in a whole lot of things we choose to do or not to do. What the risk is, and whether we decide what we get out of doing something is worth the risk of whatever might happen.

I know I couldn't possibly get anything out of drinking while pregnant that would make it worth the risk, however small that risk might be.

Education, education, education. Give all the information - reliable and proven of course. Show the evidence. Then the individual can make an informed choice.

Sue

Y'see, Deb, nobody -- nobody nobody nobody -- in this thread said it shouldn't be the choice of the woman.

Wouldn't it be nice, though, if all women knew what the risks associated with their choices were?

I always think it isn't really a "choice" if people don't know those things.

Like I said: if I choose to walk out into traffic and I don't know there's a bus coming, is that really a choice? Did I choose to walk in front of a bus, or just not know what I was doing?

If women know what the risks associated with drinking when they're pregnant are and choose to do it anyway, that's up to them.

I just don't understand -- I really really really don't understand -- why anyone would want to keep that kind of information from someone else. Or try to influence what someone else does by telling them how it never done them no harm, when that has pretty much nothing to do with how it might affect someone else.

No i don't.
But it should be the choice of the woman.

Deb

So Deb.

Do you advise that pregnant women drink alcohol and smoke?

C'mon now.

I had the (very) occasional drink when I was pregnant with #1.
He seems to have turned out OK at 6'5" (I'm 5'3").
The only thing that is wrong with him is he is toooo skinny. 156lbs.

With #2 I spent 4 months of my pregnancy in the UK. I was advised to drink Makisons (I think that's what it's called) for the iron.

I smoked with both.

Deb

I feel a need to help you, Carol.

In your plane crash thread, you thought it would help your point (whatever it was: that a plane crash is tragic? who'd 'a thunk it?!) by saying something else is unimportant. Something else that had absolutely nothing at all to do with plane crashes. And thus quite obviously passing negative judgment on people who happen to think that the risks of drinking while pregnant are important, and the possible results are tragic.

In this thread, I responded to and commented on things said about drinking while pregnant, in a thread about drinking while pregnant, to people discussing drinking while pregnant.

Seeing the difference at all?

How about if I stand .......................................................... over here?

Glad you liked them.

Feel free to write them on your monitor 100 times. Maybe you'll actually grasp the meaning by the end.


One despairs, doesn't one?

Using your own words

JaneyCanuck Today at 00:10 Request review

I simply never understand this need to make one's point / pat one's self on the back by bashing someone / something else ...

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Somebody certainly needs to get a grip.

Perhaps you can identify a post here in which anyone has suggested that any pregnant woman be denied anything.

You advise pregnant women to drink and smoke if you like.

I won't be doing it.

Of course, if you have some evidence that eating pot noodles results in children born with severe brain damage and other defects, please do present it. Otherwise, I'm thinking I'm hearing irrelevant nonsense.

Let's be realistic - how many pregnancies were CAUSED by drinking too much alcohol? Then it's about 2 months before you realise you may be pregnant - how much alcohol may have been drunk in that time? Possibly the most dangerous time?
As I said on my earlier thread - everything in moderation - I - like all women am a bleedy HUMAN - not an automatum.
Why should I (and my baby) live in a vacuum when I'm being poisoned by exhaust fumes and (certanly in the 1980's), additives in food!
Should all pregnant women be denied those longings to suck coal, eat pot noodles etc - which I'm sure aren't really beneficial for either mother or baby!
Get a grip! Maybe I shouldn't have ridden a bike when pregnant - but we can't all afford 2 cars! Some of us live in the real life not text-book land!

dont hold your breath Fee

personally i dont care who drinks what or when

i have to confess when i was pregnant with my 2nd it was new years eve and i had a small scotch and coke oops (slaps wrist) but by 5 am new years day i had my son lol but that was the only drink i had coz i didnt like drinking .... THEN lol..

My posts stay I was adding to a thread I refuse point blank to walk about on eggshells because someone thinks its about them FFS

Harpy love I'm not convinced that the thread is to do with anyone on GR.

Think it's best to wait for Fee to deny or affirm before we draw conclusions from someone elses *gut instincts*xx

Well. Who knew?

No idea who Catherine is, but if she sees the thread, she might learn something she didn't know before, in between all the "you're all right, dearie, I drank/smoked/skydived my whole pregnancy and all my kids are strong like ox" ...

***disclaimer**

Every word I have written on this thread is my own genuine opinion.

I have NOT used it to score points over something I had no bl**dy idea about.

There is no evidence this thread WAS put up as a *dig* at Catherine but Fee you should know you were accused of putting this up as a reaction to a pic at the Liverpool meet.

Just so you know. xx

Thanks for your interest, Uzzi.

janey I will say each to there own,
Maybe be i don't agree but at least i understand.

may I ask how many children do you have ? I bet they like all are a blessing to you

Janey... I never for one moment said it was you....but once everything dire has been pointed out it is still up to the individual to weigh up the pros and cons and make their own decision.... and I am just thankful we still have that option.