General Chat

Well what I was trying to work out was,

If you could find the father of Simon then Elizabeth has possibly the same father because they do look like brother & sister ... in the census.

Have you seen the Simon Kramer West Ham birth b1885
and the Simon Maceachem b1885 well he's gotta be one of them !!

Go on tell me I'm not telling you anything you don't know ....LOL

I'll go and take a look at tree...

PS dont think Hubby could manage any more ...he said two was enough ....LOL

marilyn there no birth for simon for west ham but in the census it looks name could be louisa and there is a louisa 1884 for west ham

think ill have to get the cert but noing my luck it will be mary child

ok think ill do that now


im going crazzzzzzzzzzzy

Name: Louisa Barber
Birth: Sep 1884 - West Ham, Essex, Greater London
4a 17

Shelly.

Its defiantly says Simon on paper but could be a mistake by the judicature when writing it down as it also says daughter !!

But Although this is a wild card.

Simon Kramer b 1885 West Ham looks like he had a sister born in 1892 West Ham called Katie Louise Kramer march qrt. Could this be( Elizabeth) ??
I know its a long shot but what a coincidence ....

elizabeth sister eliza wes born 1885

Shelly what was Eliza born as Barber or what ?

barber

agnes told fibs on set

teckly specking it is a or what lol

Shelly,


Think there was interbreeding going on in West ham .... LOL

Me head is Spinning even Putter is not behaving well...!!

Shelly ,
I can see that George Elles b 1890,
William b 1893 ,Charlotte louise b 1895 & Agnes Maud b 1899 are all Henry's Children with Agnes.

Only Eliza b1885 & Elizabeth b 1892 seem to not have a Birth, am I right ?

yes marilyn that right

some family iv got lol

think this side is such a pain no one on record office dont even want to take it on lol

may be i should just chop it down and have a bom fire

shelly
dont despair!!!
i jus double checking mine!!
we ok til gr grandad!!! then he changed his name! after mum was born!!
so im real then mum then nan then!!!!
wot in the world happened for prev 200yrs!!
we got certs butttttt

Shelly ,

If that George Elles Maltby B 1890 is Agnes child , Elizabeth was born after him in 1892 so she must have been a Maltby baby..

Have you got Florence Elizabeth Maltby B1891 West Ham DEC QRT I know its not the right qrt but she is the only one left on BMD.

Did you ever get that birth Cert...?

Sue,

Not another lot of interbred in your family as well ...LOL

pmsl chock on my drink

if i get eny more certs for who i think may be elizabeth ill have evry flipping one there is in the world lol

george 1890 iv got the cert some were he was born rush )somethink but agnes was not the mother carnt remember who father was


ill have a look if Florence Elizabeth B1891 West Ham is in the census living with a family

ooo yeh!
dodgy those billimores (whetman)
gr g charles whetman/billimore changed name by deed poll in year mum was born!!
at one point they all changed name between 1881/1891
yyyyy we aint found out yet!!!
appart from the hanging/murder
which is all connected!

Funny LOT ......LOL

y wait that long to change your name!!!

well sue get your lot to murder my flipping lot

then i can have done with them lol