General Chat

Ann

Phyllis and Robert DID divorce in 1908.
Found details on Naional Archives. Just gotta work out how to get the details now lol. Although I do know the co-respondant is Albert Ernest Parsons aka Albert Ernest Streeter.

Hi
Sorry to have been unhelpful. Alice Simms seems missing from cencus so have guessed she was born between them. Her parents were Robert Lyons Sims born 4.10.1810 in Dover and her mother Phoene nee Quick born in Poplar in circa 1830. They seem to have always lived in the London area. The child before Alice was Phoebe was born in 1867. I know that later on Alice became a general servant but I cannot find her on a cencus, she just seems to have been born and disappeared until the 1890's when I know she was living with my great grandmother.

thanks Ann

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Oh Ann

Just realised I may have another mystery on my hands....... Phyllis re marries sept 1/4 1911 (currently awaiting cert dispatch date 20th) I assumed Robert had died. But just re-reading his service record he is in service until 1927...oh this is getting good LOL

Shelli I will look tomorrow for them Off to bed now.

Ann
Glos

Sorry Ann just re read your message and realised you wanted details just dug them out.

Robert William DAYMAN 26 Mar 1898 Union Workhouse Sundridge Kent
Phyllis Rosetta LEACH 28 Feb 1875 Knockholt Kent
Robery LEACH born ????? according to marrage cert in Jul 1898 he was 27 so c1871 and the service record I found for Robert Leach states him born 15 Oct 1871 Uffculme Devon

don't fret Ben we will keep trying.. I will have another go tomorrow. maybe Susan will be looking in later and will have a go she is better at it than me. I am off to bed now.

Ann
Glos

Hi Ann

I have just tried your suggestions. Still to no avail. I really would love to find her.

Ben

Could be he was based in Chatham then. what is his name and date/place of birth

Ann

27 June 1900 - 12 Feb 1904 he was PO 1cl onboard Repluse, no mention of a port. Apart from the top of the page which states Chatham

Ann

no idea abour ports. just stabbing in the dark really. On the marriage cert in 1898 occupation is given as petty officer RN

Oh just thought i did download his service record brb

Shelli, If he was at sea his family should be at home. if the ship was in dock it should have been part of the census. Do you know which port he was based in (i.e.where the family would live.)

Can you give the names (again if you did before) and their dates/places of birth. So we can help look.


Ann
Glos

Ben, Have you tried all the variants of their surname?
Auber, Aubre, Anber, Anbre, ouber, Onber.

What else could it be? Difficult to mis-read Emma.
Clara could be Clare, Edwin could be Eddie. or they could be down as C, E and E Auber. Have you tried all these?

Ann
Glos

Ann

As i posted earlier i can't find my gt grandad, his Mum and his stepdad in 1901, if Stepdad was in the navy would the whole family be at sea if he was?that would explain their disappearance.

Hi

Edwin was born at No 3 Union Buildings, Kingsland Road, Hoxton in September 1840. The birth was registered in October. I have looked under an address search for 1841 but no luck.

Emma would probably be in either Hoxton, Shoreditch or Clerkenwell as she was in Seymour Place, Clerkenwell in May 1843 when her next illegitimate child was born. Bit of a coincidence that Clara, Emma and Edwin are missing from 1841. That is why I have a gut feeling they were together.

Ben

Christine, I think there is a Bermuda Triangle of Family History. My Gt gt Grandfather is probably with your two somewhere. Good job we can laugh about it.

Ann
Glos

Have you not found Emma in 1841 either? Where was she born? and where was edwin born

Ann
Glos

Hi Ann

That is why I want to find Clara in 1841. Emma would have been 28 (probably rounded to 25) with a son Edwin aged 9 months.

The middle name for Clara gives it away I think but as said the identity of the father will probably always remain a mystery. Unless I am lucky enough to find a poor law document. I have learnt not to hold my breath.

Ben

I reckon she was Emma's daughter brought up by the grandparents. She would then have named her grandad on her marriage certificate. That happened quite often Ben. I doubt you will ever know who her real father was then.

Ann
Glos

Clara Emma Auber wed in 1856 aged 20 to Matthew Coombs brother William Thomas Coombs in Hackney, London.

She says her father was John Auber, weaver, which ties in with her 1836 baptism in Shoreditch but her mum would have been 51 when she was born as the mum was born in 1784. Clara's middle name is the first name of an older sister Emma who was born in 1813 and had 3 baseborn children from 1840 to 1850.

Ben

Ben