General Chat

Ben, sorry I missed your last post re Holborn and your ancestors who were in a workhouse. I think they would have been sent to the workhouse in the parish in which The adults were born.

ann
Glos

N

nudge for anyone else who requires help

Terry *from the heart*. I wish I could find mine who went to France then!!!! And didn't return! And the birth of his son in France, who joined the RM and we can't find his attestation.

Ann
Glos

Having to look in more than one European archive can tell you that there are more than a few British people who settle permenantly in other European countries.

She is indeed Ann and all is appreciated very much!

Patricia that is great news about the site. Susan is such a mine of information.

Ann
Glos

Well anything is possible Susan!!

My dads side of family is very elusive it seems there's got to be a mix up somewhere huh!



I paid to go on that Emeraldancestors link you gave me and found a host of my mums relatives on it.. now although i have these in my tree i now have definate dates of birth deaths and marriages and have my great grannys maiden name and her parents also!

I just cant believe it and it was £10 well spent and i have rest of month to look!

My dads family sadly werent in it but there were some similiarites but now enough for a definate link!


Im on enough wild goose chases haha


Your are a wee gem Susan and everyone else helping with Lookups its all so appreciated and my fone hasnt stopped since lol Thankyou!



Oh and how are you related to the Morrow or Coulter clan???????????

Shelli you are welcome and I will reply to your PM soon.

One thing about asking for help on here is that I find it re-concentrates our own minds on the problem so we start looking again ourselves. We haven't found them yet Shelli, hopefully we will eventually.

Ann
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Just a message of thanks to Ann for her tireless help.

xxxxxx

n

Hi Patricia...not saying this has happened in your case but my Great Grandmother's marriage cert was a mixup.....it had the name of her Husband's brother by the mistake of some-one at the time.....brother was still unmarried ten years later when she was living with her husband......tis a pain when they use middle names too...even my Father used his middle name on all certs except birth cert......

.Do you know the names of any siblings, so that you can trace and find the info through them?

Oh forgot to mention my sister and i have spent numerous days from time to time in Proni offices they can be quite addictive lol but no joy!

Thanx Susan ever so much really grateful and loads of links there brilliant......x

I came across the James and Agnes before in Newtownards but my father stated on his marriage cert that his father was Thomas..So that i think i will have to go on.. unless he had middle name Thomas and thats all my dad knew him by..

But i find no record of my dad being born but apparently that could happen as well...

Did visit a grave in Newtownards with Agnes Morrow nee Coulter buried in it but no husband just her son Thomas and grandchild...


Gosh i wish we were related coz you would be the 1st living relative we have ever met belonging to my father!

Patricia

Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 7 Jan 1898
Groom Name james MORROW
Bride Name agnes COULTER
Church Ballycopeland Presbyterian Church
Parish Donaghadee
Civil District Newtownards
County Down


Having said this......there were quite a few Agnes COULTERs but not in Newtonards......here is one birth....

Record Type Civil Birth
Date of Birth 22 Oct 1870
Name Agnes COULTER
Gender F
Fathers Name John COULTER
Mothers Forenames Sarah
Mothers Maiden Name COPLAND
Civil District Newtownards
Sub District Newtownards
County Down



and if this is one of yours......we are sort of related :-))))))


Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 23 Oct 1858
Groom Name thomas MORROW
Bride Name elizabeth MCMASTER
Church Newtownards Civil Registrars Office
Parish Newtownards
Civil District Newtownards
County Down

from emeraldancesters.com....you will have to purchase the cert for more info cost = £10

The following site may be able to help.....has a good search engine but pay per view

http://ancestryireland.com/ where you can also download a free copy of 'guide to tracing Belfast ancestors'.


and another Northern Ireland free site is

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/

don't forget to look on the Ulster Covenant for names and adresses too at...... http://www.proni.gov.uk/

Sorry...posted twice so deleted this post

am working on hubby, telling him I MUST go to Maidstone to the archives...... he's busy ignoring me currently :(((

i think you will have to go in person. I doubt if they will be on line. The register will be in date order and should have admission and discharge on the same page. you never know it may give a clue as to where she went next.

Quick update before WDYTYA..... Union workhouse Sundridge, did have a lying in ward, so maybe Phyllis did enter just to give birth???
ANd I've found out where the records are held and these include - Guardians' minutes (1866-1930); Births and baptisms (1846-1932); Deaths (1866-99); Creed registers (1893-1923); Admissions and discharges (1898-1932)

All of which ( just for once) actually cover the dates I'm interested in!!!!

Just gotta work out how to search them..... another problem LOL

Ann,

Sorry again just re-read your orginal comment on this thread, without kids bellowing in my ears!!

I believe RWD was born in the workhouse cos he was illigitimate ( sp?) He was born there not admitted. Matron registered his birth.
Can think of nothing else to help find him at all. Dayman is his mothers maiden name and the name he used all his life I presumed. He certainly used when he married, he gave it to his daughters ( my Nan) And it's on death cert. I orginally thought in 1901 as he was only 3, whoever had fillled in the census returns had given him the same surname as his mum ie; Leach. But thats ovbiously now not the case.

So you think it may be possible that Phyllis is living in sin with someone, if this is that case maybe she took his surname just for the census???