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Ben, how do you know that you and this member are talking about the same person?

It's OM And there are no records for him on A2A?

Hi Ann

I am just curious as to how this gr member got his birthplace as he died before the 1851 census. Could she have been guessing or just taken the nearest likely baptism as true?

Ben

ive checked every web site known to man ive seen his medals records but not his army records. he was a pow in franch but thats as for it goes. ny grand never remembered seeing his dad as he was born in 1908.

That's sad. was he posted missing do you know? I assume you have checked the War graves commission site?

My Great Grandfather went off the grid in 1914 .

We know he was a POW but thats it. He wasnt on the list of the dead, but he never came home.

Ben
I would think there is a pretty high chance that it is not the same one. What makes you think it should be the same one? Any other matches with him. james is a common name for the period and i would imagine that Bradford is quite common too.

Edit
In fact on ancestry there are at least 40 James Bradfords born between 1795 and 1805 in the 1841 in England

Ann
Glos

Hi Ann

What are the chances that the James Bradford aged 49 living round the corner from Sarah in the 1841 census is NOT the James Bradford born in Effingham, Surrey in 1792? He died in 1846 and that GR member put his birthplace in her tree. How she got it I dont know just the age does fit.

If nhe is the one born in Effingham in 1792, I wonder if he was a friend or secret lover whom Sarah took the name of as if he was the one born in Effingham, then he is not a brother or cousin of Sarah.

Ben

yes Ben that is true about the coachman bit. My relative that was a coachman was born and grew up in Froyle Hampshire and ended up in Highgate London.

It is a pity that your Sarah didn't make it to the 1851 as that would have given us a better idea where she was born.

As you know all marriages are not on the IGI. trouble is you can't assume that is them and you can't prove it isn't Unless there are any other links.

Ann
glos

Hi Ann

There were loads of people moving to London from all over England throughout the whole of the 19th century, and I have searched many London PRs that arent on the IGI to no avail.

I wonder if they moved to London c1811 after they married? Sarah wasnt born in London according to 1841 and that is the only likely marriage that I can find on the IGI. If he was a coachman, he may have travelled a bit.

Any more ideas?

I would stick with London Ben, the lists are full of people with the same names as we are researching, we could go down many cul de sacs with that one.

Ann
Glos

Hi Ann

I wonder if he was a friend who she took the surname of?

Sarah said in 1841 that she was not born in London and she died in 1851 aged 60 just before the census.

I have just found a marriage on the IGI for a George Coombs to a Sarah Davey in 1810 in Axminster, Devon.

Thing is, my George and Sarah had their first child in London in 1812.

Ben

Hmm intriguing Ben isn't it?

Hi Ann

Maybe Sarah was having a secret affair with James and then took his name and Amey may have run off or something. Amey just seemed to vanish.

Ben

They could quite well have lived together and she used his name. It happens now I am sure it happened then!

Ann
Glos

Hi Ann

Yes but I havent go a reply. That was 4 weeks ago I messaged her.

James wife Amey seems to have vanished off the face of the earth in about 1837. I cannot find a death for her yet they had a child baptised in 1837.

Could Sarah have adopted James surname for some reason??????

Ben

have you contacted the person to ask about james Ben?

Hi Ann

Sarah was born in about 1791. She died in Feb 1851 aged 60 just before the 1851 census so at the minute her birthplace is unknown. She is in 1841 at 11 Carburton Street, Marylebone, aged 45, rounded down with a 12 year old son William, who I think is my ancestor William Coombs.

James Bradford is just round the corner from her at Upper Charlton Street aged 49, not born in county with a son Henry. He is the only likely James Bradford in the area at that time. James died in 1846 but someone has added him to GR and said he was from Effingham in Surrey. How she found that out I dont know if he died before 1851. There was one born in Effingham in 1792 though.

Ben

Ben

Ben,
I am hoping that Susan will look in later at this one as it is a long one and I have a lot to do in preparation for my holiday next weekend.

However, One thing James Bradford who signed his name and James Bradford who made his mark could well be the same person as sometimes they just didn't bother to sign.

Another thing, it is difficult to track Sarah without knowing her date and place of birth so could you add those please.

Ann
Glos

Shelli, I can't find a marriage either. maybe they were not married!!

Ann
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