General Chat

I've got an idea

make the parents of the yobs do national service maybe they would have more concern about what their kids are doing then.

No its not aimed at the yobs its aimed at everybody who falls within the age limits.

So as I said before...will that mean pulling out the young who are in work to do a stint in the NS ? ...or is this whole thing aimed at the yobs?

John please don't start me on the school system lol
Pablo as I have said I don't agree with all the PC brigade do and say but you do have to have rules its a fact of life .
Eldrick if it could work I would back it coz to be honest round here police are few and far between and as you say we have enough of them .I just rarely see one .

Uggers I'm not sugesting that they all go to war. Just give the youngsters another type of education - as i have said, they don't have to fight..

Daff, believe me, it dosen't take that many to train men/women. (Just look at a scool teacher, 30 in a class)..As for shelter, food, wages etc... Isn't that already being done.?
I'm not a 'war monger', I just see things in a different light to others. But, with my hand on my heart, it's the youngsters out there on the streets, and there a millions of them,which is my main concern..
John

No extra powers needed - none at all.

If Chief constables had to electioneer - they would have to listen to the local people and then deliver - or they wander off clutching a UB 40 form.

There are more than enough powers to deal with yob behaviour.

Current Chiefs are only interested in a knighthood and maybe getting into the HMI dept. The adversarial system for promotion means that the true problems are ignored and home office targets and priorities are paramount. The wishes and thoughts of local communities are ignored or at best given lip service.

There have never been as many police officers as there are now. So where are they? I'll tell you where - in diversity depts., equal opps depts, racial this that and the other depts, save the whale depts, new intiative to get the assitsnt chief his degree depts, and so on and so forth.

An elected cheif would soon clear them out! And get rid of community beat wardens and other such gimmicks!

Rant over.

do me a favour

while the PC brigade may take things to far we would be worse off without it .

What would a locally elected Chief constable do Eldrick , anything he wanted to do to bring in order would have to be passed through the numpties at westminster, who would pass it on to Brussels who would again carp on about human rights and then pass it back to the chief constable in a much diluted form.
Yet again the PC brigade will have won the day

God help us

I have to say I would like more info on Eldricks idea .

John and Bob does that mean that you would suggest that a Military already stretched to it's limit, personnel wise, would have the job of training, nurturing (please remember the Human Rights Act here as well) and providing shelter, lodgings, wages, food etc etc?

Where would the extra personnel required to provide all the above come from?

Where do you envisage the financial resources coming from? Whose budget? Military? Prison Service? Probation Service? Education?

Our Military is not a police force, prison/probation service... it is a fighting/protective force

And nor should our taxpayers money be spent on what is basically an extra vigorous Duke of Edinburgh/ Outward bound scheme.

I will say one thing though... our military must be very good, cos whenever there is a problem... binmen strike, firemen strike, unruly youngsters, floods and famine...... it is almost the first call that is made

Bring in the Military! lol

Love

Daff xxx

With locally elected Chief contsables Eldrick, will these be given the 'powers' which you have submitted earlier to tackle the problem ? If not, where to next ?

National Service may have been good in it's day - don't know cos I wasn't around but it wouldn't solve much now - the world has moved on.

MGHS as has already been said our service personal that are out there don't even have the equipment they need and the last thing they have time for is nose wipeing

Well whatever the answer is.....wouldn't Brussels have something to say?.....human rights and all that!

Just a thought


Ah but, Eldrick...... wouldn't they then be using up all their time on elections and all that may involve?.....not disagreeing.....just looking further than the question.

Susan
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Yes John with some of them I would agree with Eldrick to lol

As with everything John it comes down to funding in the most part ,and no I agree a lot don't stand a chance as things stand but I still don't think the military is the way to go

I can tell you an instant solution - locally elected Chief Constables.


Ponder on that one......

OK Tory - So what else can be done? No one seems able to come up with any sollution, apart from Edlricks, (and I must admit I could go along with his remedies)...

*faints* at having hugs from Eldrick, lol!!

*blushes*

Devon Dweller.... the term National Emergency does not mean just war... there are many other events that could be declared as such... you only have to think of some of the disasters going on at this minute, and that could mean a massive *call up* or mobilisation if they ever happened on these shores.

Even so... I think that people do change their views when they are in the situation of having to defend our own shores from hostile attack, as happened in WWll. It was sad, but necessary.

In those circumstances, I would join up!!

Daff xxx