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Catherine from Manchester

Catherine from Manchester Report 14 Apr 2008 11:09

this is disgusting and should not be allowed to happen-
will sign for sure
c
xx

Heather

Heather Report 14 Apr 2008 11:09

But if we dont decry one act of cruelty does that not condone cruelty on a much larger scale? I think that is how people who do protest feel.

It is much easier to sit back, do nothing and pour scorn on those who do care. But that only encourages the tyrants of this world.

"One man's death is a tragedy, 6 million deaths are a statistic"

:{{{0())~}        Ian         مْر

:{{{0())~} Ian مْر Report 14 Apr 2008 11:05

I use Robert Mugabe as an example. Can't see the point is starting to castigate people for being gutless.



:{{{0())~}        Ian         مْر

:{{{0())~} Ian مْر Report 14 Apr 2008 11:04

The point is clear to me -

No one gives a damn about the big picture in anything.

People will go off it for a single highlighted case of cruelty, but ignore the thousands of other cases that go unpublicised.

They will offer death threats to a human for commiting an act of 'cruelty' even though it is unproven - but decry the death penalty for murder......

That is the point of 'art' - it means different things to different people and is meant to be controversial.

Yes, no excuse for wanton cruelty........but this stunt has certainly got people heated up, hasn't it! It's succeeded in doing something, then.

Ian

Heather

Heather Report 14 Apr 2008 11:04

I think the point it does show Ian, is that too many people are too weak to stand up against evil of any sort. It is easier to believe something is untrue than have to stand up and be counted (throughout history - and quite recent history at that - we have seen this to be the case - Hitler relied on it, Stalin also and even closer to us we have people like Mugabe and before him, Amin)

Robert Mugabe is not a god, he could be toppled - so where are those with the guts to do the job? I take it you are already involved in a protest against him Ian?

Roxanne

Roxanne Report 14 Apr 2008 10:56

What point,Ian?

there is never an excuse fro any form of cruelty.

I replied to Tania's thread because I thought maybe,just maybe that could be the reason.
to bring to out attention the plight of these animals.
but you don't tie an animal up in an art gallery,even if at the end of the day you release it.
if he was so concerned perhaps he could of given it a home.
No,this man is a monster.
They come in all kinds!

:{{{0())~}        Ian         مْر

:{{{0())~} Ian مْر Report 14 Apr 2008 10:48

Regardless, it sums up priorities and maybe, just maybe, this guy has a point.....?

Heather

Heather Report 14 Apr 2008 10:47

I should imagine Robert Mugabe would never hear of the death threats he is under Ian - because it serves the purpose of those who support him to keep him in power - once again, money rules the day.

:{{{0())~}        Ian         مْر

:{{{0())~} Ian مْر Report 14 Apr 2008 10:45

Received death threats. That about sums this world up, lol

I bet he's had more death threats than Robert Mugabe.

Enough said?

Heather

Heather Report 14 Apr 2008 10:43

Tania, I havent seen your thread but from the information Ive been receiving:

I dont believe this bloke wanted to draw attention to starving dogs in the street, come on, if you check out his other "exhibits" you will see this is not a bloke motivated by conscience. The dog was just an addition to an exhibit about "Things are what you think" or some such nonsense.

Its a bit like saying Tracey Emin put her dirty bed clothes in an exhibition to draw attention to the lack of laundrettes.

There are varying reports - he says he fed it (have you seen the pics - this is a bag of bones), he said it escaped after just a day - the poor dog couldnt walk let alone escape from that place where he was tied up.

So does this artist now donate all his earnings to starving street dogs then? Did he not think to have that one receive some veterinary treatment rather than tie it by the neck on a cold hard floor?

Nope, I think we will find that this is some sort of spin to protect the bloke who apparently has had several death threats now.

Whatever the actual truth - and I cant believe someone could be so callous to have a dog in that condition tied up in a gallery anyway - it shouldnt be allowed.

TaniaNZ

TaniaNZ Report 13 Apr 2008 21:10

This is a hoax I have explained on my thread

Deanna

Deanna Report 13 Apr 2008 21:05

Lou I am so glad that you agree with me.

I am often attacked (verbally) because of my age.. as being OLD FASHIONED.

But I was like this with all my children (4.. with age gaps 50-36) and was so pleased that I was not alone here.

Deanna X

Toothfairy

Toothfairy Report 13 Apr 2008 20:59

Would love this to be a hoax - for all the right reasons, but there are VERY real pictures of an animal in appauling condition that needs to be investigated......
And I for one will be looking into this closely....!!

On the subject of children viewing this sort of thing i think it's great that others have the same view - to educate them that this is something that is very wrong is surely better than them being blind to the world?? My five year old is more than aware and often helps me with rescues (and plans to be a vet when she grows up) - She has seen animals in distress and understands we must stop it, whatever it takes....

LOU XXXXXXxxxxxxxxxxx

Deanna

Deanna Report 13 Apr 2008 20:44

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Deanna

Deanna Report 13 Apr 2008 20:32

I see nothing 'artistic' in this little scenario.

I DO hope it is a hoax, but will be signing the petition anyway, on the off chance that it is true.
If true, this is a disgusting thing to have happened and no one connected with the episode is 'innocent' of this crime.

Peter my children are all grown up.... but were they still young and read this.. we would have a talk about it.
If it were in tomorrows news papers, or on TV news.... would I make sure they did not see it?
NO.... I never censored there reading at any age, and certainly never the news.

Deanna X

PS.... Just signed and there are so many signatures!!

.•:*:•. Devishly Angelic Juliecat & Panda..•:*:•.

.•:*:•. Devishly Angelic Juliecat & Panda..•:*:•. Report 13 Apr 2008 20:23

I hope it's not a hoax either but even if the dog is been well cared for it shouldn't be used as art, IMO.

Lindy

Lindy Report 13 Apr 2008 20:10

I agree with Muffy,

Waves to Caz and everyone else ~~~~~~~~

Lindyxx

Sheila

Sheila Report 13 Apr 2008 20:06

nudge

Cumbrian Caz~**~

Cumbrian Caz~**~ Report 13 Apr 2008 20:06

I hope to God it is a hoax Sue, can someone PM me the link?


Caz xx

Cyprus

Cyprus Report 13 Apr 2008 20:05

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