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pmsl lorraine

u need to stop pineing lol that poppys job lol

Thanks for all your replies.
I didnt expect to get so many.

I have to say what really brought this thread on was a case today:-(

I know there are good and Bad Breeders,but my main concern is the level of bad breeders out there.
There are of course certain breeds that will always be needed, Dogs for the blind e.t.c!
But I really cant see why they Breed Cats! Some of these animals have huge health Issues too,which also makes me wonder why??
Thanks for keeping it friendly:-)

It's an interesting thread Roxanne. Thanks for posting xx

Enjoyed adding and reading the other posts

xx Jill

yes very intresting here diffrent opinions good it makes you think about things as a whole always two sides to a story lilymoon x

I've always had a mix... mogs, strays, other peoples' cast offs, re-homed, delinquents and a pedigree.. who was also rehomed with me as a delinquent... she lived with me for 13 and a half years, and I still miss her badly.... and my lovely two boys courtesy of our Puss!! Including these (my babies, lol), I have 5 cats.. the other three are elderly, and were rescue cats badly traumatised by their experiences.

I have spent over 35 years loving, nurturing and rehabilitating traumatised children, cats and dogs... the ones used and abused by society!!

It is extremely hard, and sometimes unrewarding, work!!

My next pup has to be very carefully chosen so that he or she will be able to have the attention from me that he or she deserves. This means I will have to be able to guarantee a certain disposition and temperament, and not leave it to chance... I would never be able to provide a border collie with the exercise and stimulation it needs..... so if *collie* was in a rescue dogs make-up, and I fell in love.... then I would be doing that poor creature no favours. I have a progressive ailment... sometimes I could walk for miles, others not far at all.

Puppy farms should be outlawed... but sensible breeding so that temperament/type is fairly predictable is an option that I think must be available.... I would dearly love to be able to fill my home and my life with rescue animals... I can't, so I sponsor where I can, support charities that help unloved and neglected animals and children.... and will choose a pedigree puppy whose temperament and needs are fairly pre-established as the next member of my family.

I make no apologies for this... I have not only rescued animals whilst abroad, but paid for them to go into quarantine, and brought them back with me. They lived full, healthy and happy lives... I am proud of that...and they gave me so much back in return.

But I really do resent the implication that if my next pup is carefully chosen for it's pedigree and breeding, and reasonably assured needs and personality, I am committing some sort of criminal act!!

How very presumptuous and self opinionated!!

Regards,

Daff.

well said daff hun



responsible breeding is ok

its farming thats wrong

Not at all Daff,I have seen how some of these Breeders work!
I dont apologise for being Opinionated,thats who I am:-))
we all have opinions dont we??

I think it is a very good suggestion that puppy farms should be closed down altogether.

Whichever animal you choose, it needs to be fit for purpose - like your reasoning Daff.

All factors need to be taken into consideration but how can an animal raised in the completely uneducative environment of a puppy farm be fit for any position/job?

Home bred for a family dog - with children around if necessary and farm breeding for a working dog, eg, sheep, gun, etc.

It is simple common sense.

For those animals that unfortunately need to be rescued, where their owners die, as a simple example, then specialist rehoming organisations can and do help hugely.

The key is to know what you are looking for and to select that.

Roxanne... as you say... you have seen how some of these breeders work.... but only some, not all!!

In all walks of life there are rogues and instances... many instances.. of malpractice!!... that does not mean that all should be arbitrarily tarred with the same brush!

The breeding of animals is no different.... the opening up of care homes, hair and beauty salons, or alternative therapy practices and even some animal rescue shelters (I have been in some pretty dire ones where I would happily have euthanased the entire staff)... there will be dreadful practitioners who deserve nothing more than to be locked up and the key thrown away.... but there are also many many more who provide loving, caring, nurturing environments for whatever *service* they are providing... and the same goes for breeders of dogs... these days, most aim for happy, healthy pups, and happy contented new owners.

Regards

An equally opinionated Daff.

Thank you Abigail... I would totally endorse all that... and on that note... I am off to my bed.

Night night

Daff xxx

Daff

*speechless*

*bows* in the style of "I'm not worthy"* Which I'm not........

Bleedy well said x 1000 xx

Well,Not In my Experience,and i have had lots!

The Breeding of Dogs/Cats for "Profit" is not acceptable.
only for certain working Dogs as I have stated.


Whats that saying?? Oh Yes"me thinks thou dost protest too much":-))

were in the thread was it said that anybody who brought a ped dog was commiting a criminal act it for me was a good topic and seemed to go well with every one having a say with out any one taking offense to someone opinion lilymoon

Well Daff decided to make it an arguement!!
Theres always one,Im Afraid!

I don't think she did.

She stated her opinon strongly same as you did Roxanne. However..........we all read stuff different I guess....... so I'll disappear here cos I've enjoyed the thread and don't wish to argue.

Nite xx

No Muffy,She attacked!!
She obviously does not know how to debate in an adult civilized manner.
How very,Very Sad!!

I am with Daff and Kitty and others here.

It isn't pedigree breeding or mongrel breeding (although this may happen more often as pedigrees are often guarded from having "nights on the tiles"!!!)

It is irresponsible breeding that is the problem.

My aunt rescues pedigree standard poodles - two had a history of owners dying, one was unable to cope after a breakdown, but they had all been lovingly and responsibly bought.

On the other hand a friend has a mongrel who was from a litter whose mother was kicked out when it became obvious she was to have puppies.

it is a passionate subject, but whatever motivates a person to take on an animal, the animal MUST be suitable for the home that they are able to give to it, ie, working dogs in working homes and pets in a home suited to their temperament and exercise needs.

Or it will end in tears again.

lol.... just my opinion, of course.... as you so rightly said... we are all entitled to one... no argument intended... this lady is not for turning on this point... this IS my opinion.. just as you have yours, which you are equally entitled to! I certainly did not intend for there to be an argument! lol!

Lilymoon... it is not that it was actually called a criminal act... but there is a feeling of censure implicated... that is how I interpreted it, I am afraid.
Just as my words have been interpreted as argumentative... so be it!

*shrugs shoulders* not a problem!

Daff

thanks for a very good thread roxanne lilymoon avid animal lover even dont to the goldfish