Genealogy Chat

Hi Mike
Thankyou for that ,,,,
Just a bit confused here if that was the marriage then how can she have 2 illegitimate children in 1826 and 1825?will have to look to see if her hubby has died then

You dererve 2 pints for this Mike plus pie and chips lol

Sue

Greeting’s again English Bob…..

Entry No. 1924.
Reads thus :~

June. 9th.

Eliza Daughter of
Born July. 10th.1819.

Laton & Sophia
COOKES. ? ( Although it doesn’t come up on the I.G.I Batch No’s site )

Loughborough.
Frame Work Knitter.
Rev’d D Clemetson.

Do not think this is your Family
If only because of the Father’s occupation
That of a Frame Work Knitter
It’s not so exciting as Coachman …..

I can but have another look at the original again next week
It’s so much clearer on the fiche reader not so many scratches.

MIKE.

Greeting's again Frazzled Caroline .....

" Your very welcome ................"

That's what this site is all about....

If we can help you further then just ask.....

If you have access to the Census returns 1841
Then you'll find Samuel & Rebecca & Family

On the following return :~

HO 107 / 895 / Bk. 1./ Fol. 1. Page. 2.

Indexed as...... SORBY.

MIKE.xx

(¯`*•.¸ (¯`*•.¸F.A.O……Sue O’ Lincolnshire….. ¸.•*¨) ¸.•*¨)

OK…..Lets try it from another angle then…….

This coming Sunday whilst at the
Leicestershire Family History Society….. A.G.M.

I hope to purchase the Poor Law No. 2. Disk
This contains references to :~
Quarter Sessions 1714. ~ 1844.
Removal & Settlement Orders 1678. ~ 1832.
Bastardy Order Books. 1678.~ 1832.
Bastardy Order Books 1844. ~ 1874.

So if Mary took out an Bastardy Order on the Man / Men.
Then it will be Indexed on this disk.
I then can look at the original Book up from the strong room.

MIKE. xx

Ooh eck Mike isnt it getting interesting !!
Thankyou Sue............

...thanks Mike.... reason is I still do not have the origins of b1781 Thomas, so any clue is big one, e.g. although a frame work knitter, could be a brother, even a cousin. Why would Thomas and Lydia be in L'boro' at the same time, blah, blah!

....and Laton, is that really a name?, needs looking at methinks.

Bob

Hello Mike, I have had another good look at the PR image, almost certainly mistranscribed on the disc.

I reckon it is this fellow and his wife.....IGI found, a sub, nevertheless I am happy that they are not mine!

John Cooper

Marriages:
Spouse: Sophia Taylor
Marriage: 04 MAR 1819 Loughborough, Leicester

Someone also took the time to submit the baptism.
ELIZA COOPER

Birth: 10 JUL 1819
Christening: 09 JUN 1823 Loughborough, Leicester, England

One job off the list for next week,
Best regards, Bob

Hi Mike, could you please look at the Parish records,if you have them, for Plungar. I am looking for details of Mary Wellbourn, born approx 1769, and also any other members of the family that you can see. Many thanks Judith

Is anyone researching people from Countesthorpe? I have the book otherwise I would of put a bid on it but there is a lovely book on Countesthorpe with loads of old photos of people and surrounding villages..on Ebay
Sue

Hello again Mike

Thank you for the info for the 1841 census, now I see why I missed it, Sanby has been mistranscribed so many times!!

I notice that it says Samuel and Rebecca were not born in Rutland. In the 1851 census Rebecca is listed as born in Lincolnshire so it looks like Samuel could be from there as well.

I can't find the death registrations for Samuel or Rebecca in the partial records so hope to find them in the complete indexes.

Could you explain something for me. When you gave me all the info on Samuel's children you put -

BAPTISMS
With Parents William & Rebecca Sanby.
Samuel a Farmer in Casterton :~

I am probably being dim but who is William?

Thank you again for all your time and help
Caroline xx

Greeting's again Frazzled Caroline......

Oops..... A Senior moment on my behalf
Amended post to read Parents SAMUEL & Rebecca ........

Long day..... Once again Sorry ..:0(((

MIKE.

Hello Mike

No need to be sorry at all, if it wasn't for you I would still be lost. It must be partly my fault you had a long day!!

Hope you have a restful weekend :o)
Caroline x

Hello again Mike,

If you have time next time you go to the records office could you have a look foe the following please?

Matthew Tansey born 1842 in Stoney Stanton, was living in Leicester with his family in 1891, when he died in 1896 he died in The Workhouse Leicester. Would you be able to see if they hold the records for the workhouse there please?

Any help would be great,

Vicky X

Greeting’s again Victoria…..


Matthew’s burial details Welford Road Cemetery :~
PLOT No. C. N. 981 :~

N 981 C Thompson Frances 1876 Jun 24 18mths Little Bedford Street Saint Margaret 17744
N 981 C Palmer John 1890 Feb 15 84 Freeman’s Common Saint Mary 31278
N 981 C * TANSEY * MATTHEW 1896 JUL 23 Aged.55 THE WORKHOUSE LEICESTER 38959
N 981 C Green James Henry 1901 Dec 9 17mths 36 Cardinal Street Leicester 46702
N 981 C Gibson Jemima 1919 Dec 8 83 3 Overton Road Leicester 58723


I’ll check out the Workhouse Admission & Discharge Books
Some time over the next 48 hours
And get back to you.

MIKE. xx

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ADMISSION & DISCHARGE BOOK
POOR LAW LEICESTER UNION WORKHOUSE.

G. / 12./ 60./ 9.

ADMISSION PAGE
Reads left to right…… thus :~

Date of admission. = Thursday.16th. July. 1896.
Name. = Tansey. Matthew.
Occupation. = Gardener.
Religion. = C of E.
Year of birth = 1841.
Class of Diet. = No. 1.
From the Parish of Leicester.
Order by C.T.
Date of Order.= 15th. July.
Reason for admission. = Illness.

DISCHARGE PAGE

Sunday July 19th.1896.

Tansey. Matthew.
Last meal given. = Dinner.
Class of Diet. = No. 1.
Reason for discharge. = Death.

Folder No.69. for both
Workhouse Master = L. Lambert.

Hope this helps.

MIKE. xx

(¯`*•.¸ (¯`*•.¸F.A.O……. ENGLISH BOB……¸.•*¨) ¸.•*¨)


Spam & Baked beans……

Deposited in my Bank vault this afternoon……. lol :0)))

Thank you....

MIKE.

Thanks for your help yet again Mike,

Vicky X

Greeting's again Victoria......

" Your more than welcome...... "...:o)

If I can help you further then just ask...

MIKE.xx

(¯`*•.¸ (¯`*•.¸F.A.O… WILLIAM PRICE ¸.•*¨) ¸.•*¨)

Greeting’s William…..

In answer to your problem of Parentage of one Robert Hartshorn c 1802.
Plus a link of Hartshorn Family of Leicester to Hartshorn families of Thurmaston.

I had a look at the original Baptism registers for St. Michaels Thurmaston.

Fiche No. DE 1256. / 2.

Reads thus :~

BAPTISMS ANNO DOMINI 1802.

22.nd.August…………Robert Son of Richard & DOROTHY Hartshorn.
H. Woodcock. Curate.

Definitely not DORATHY…..
But as you stated it could have been a case of not hearing the Mother’s name clearly ( Deborah ) or the Parish Clark could not make out the name from the Ministers notes.?

Other Baptisms found with Parents Richard & Deborah Hartshorn.:~

1795. 12th. April…………….Ann.
1796. 4th. December. …Mary.
1802. 22.nd.August…….. ROBERT.
1805..12th. April…………..Sarah.
1807. 7th. June……………..William.
1808. 22nd. October…...Rebecca.
1810. 24th. October…….Elizabeth.

Fiche No. DE 1256./ 8.

MARRIAGE ANNO DOMINI. :~ 1794.

Entry No. 96.

Richard Hartshorn. Of the South end of Thurmaston.
The Parish of Belgrave.

Deborah GRAVES. Of the same Parish.
Married in this Chapel by Banns.
By Me.:~ Samuel Woodford. Curate.

This Seventh Day of July.
One Thousand Seven Hundred and Ninety Four.

Richard signed the register by own signature.
Deborah by her Mark = X
In the Presence of :~
Mary Hartshorn ?
T. Owing ( Parish Clark )

So there is your Linking of Thurmaston & Belgrave Leicester.

Hope this helps you.

MIKE.

Hi again Mike,

Do you happen to have any burial indexes for Loughborough?

I am looking for the burials of the following in Loughborough, although it is possible the Kitchen family eventually came to Leicester.

Henry Maples Kitchen born 1872
Selina/Selena Kitchen born abt 1866
Any Kitchen children who were born between 1891 - 1910

Any Tilley children born between 1882 and died before 1901

Also I don’t know whether you could help with the following:

The marriage of Henry Maples Kitchen and Selina (unknown maiden name).

In 1891 Henry is living with his parents in Nottingham, by 1901 he is in Leicester with a “wife” called Selina and a 3 year old child Agnes. I have Agnes’ birth certificate and it says her mother’s maiden name is Burchnall, but I can not find her on any census (other that a possibility in 1871) apart from 1901 or a marriage between herself and Henry.

I was thinking that they might have got married some time after 1901 in Leicestershire.

If you could help or even give me some advice on where to look next, I would be very grateful.

Thanks

Vicky X