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Hi again Mike,

I don’t know whether you can help me with this one. I have been looking for the baptisms of my great grandparents and their siblings for a few months now and am having no joy. I’ve looked at St Matthews and St Marks so far.

The children of Joseph & Minnie Pearce between 1894 – 1910. They moved from London to Belgrave, Leicester about 1894. When my great grandmother Elizabeth Daisy Pearce was born in 1901 they lived on Bardolph Street and by about 1905 lived on Syston Street.

The children of William & Florence Tansey between 1902 – 1926. When my great grandfather William Tansey was born in 1902, they lived on Curzon Street and later moved to Taylor Street. William Sr. originally came from Stoney Stanton, but I’ve ruled this out.

If you could offer any help or advice on where to look next, I would be very grateful,

Thanks again,

Vicky X

*** F.A.O. Maggie O’ Leicester. ***

Glad you got scan OK…..

Have you tried to open it up in “Window Picture Fax Viewer” file format?
You can zoom in via the wheel on your mouse.

I can make out some of them but NO Butlers…….
I believe these Headstones were used to line the outside walls around the Cathedral Plus also to line the main path from Peacock Lane to the South Door.

In fact these are in there somewhere :~

St. Martin’s Parish Church.
Butler Burials :~
BUTLER Elizabeth 20 Jan 1837 Aged.66
BUTLER Henry 25 Sep 1849 Aged.80
BUTLER John 29 May 1834 Aged.34

Must be those facing the other way in the Photo. ...:0((((

Have a look on Sunday 20th. You may be lucky…….
Yes I’ll steer clear of sharp things this year…..:0))))

Still think you would be better to go to the Shop……
Due to the vast differences in the sizes from Extra small to small ….
Plus I do not think you can try on the Shirt at the NE Agency…..

MIKE. xxx

Mike,

"Have you tried to open it up in “Window Picture Fax Viewer” file format?"

How do I do that?? (Computer numpty here!!)

Had a look at all standing gravestones when small cub was singing in school choir concert - didn't find any Butlers!!

Thanks for BUTLER listings - all mine.

No info re: 20th yet - reminds me - 20th is 29th Wedding Anniversary, LONG time!!

NE does allow trying on of uniform so should be OK - always adopt Mum's philosophy - buy plenty big to grow into and get money's worth!!

Thanks for all your help.

M XX

*** F.A.O. Maggie O' Leicester. ***

St. George's Day Parade Instructions
Winging their way to your Oz Dais address as I type this ....

MIKE.xx

Picture Instructions

Save the Picture file to a folder of your choice……

Open this folder in normal way.

RIGHT CLICK on the picture file ( but don't open it )……

Next window to open.

Scroll down to
Open With…..

LEFT Click on the “ Open with Window Picture and Fax Viewer

Job done……Enjoy….

*** F.A.O.***……… Caroline.

The Town Stamford is a very grey area….
North is in Lincolnshire
Parts of North and West are in Rutland.
South is in Northamptonshire / Cambridge.
East is Cambridgeshire. ( Peterborough )

So you can see it can be a nightmare…!!!!…

Samuel ( Snr ) Baptism details …….

Samuel Sanby.
23rd. October. 1790.
Spalding.
Father. :~ Robert.
Mother. :~ Frances.

Is this the same as you came up with. ?

You state that you have found hopefully the Death for Samuel
In Stamford…….In order to help me
Can you give me the details ( Ref. No’s & year ) of this find

From this I’ll be able to Identify the area to look at……

Don’t forget…. Although it stated Stamford it may not be the TOWN of Stamford it’s self but a Village which is in the DISTRICT of Stamford.

MIKE.

Greeting’s again Vicky……

Having looked at the 1901. Census returns for RG 13.2991. / 43. / Page. 17.
( Census night was Monday 1st. April.1901. )

I see that it has Elizabeth D. Pearce as 17 Months old ( c1899 ) b Leicester.
Minnie Pearce Dau. 2. b BELGRAVE. Leicester.
There was a Helen Pearce. Dau. 6. b Belgrave. Leicester.

But on the G.R.O. birth Index records site Elizabeth Daisy’s birth was registered April ~ March ~ May Quarter 1901.
Elizabeth Daisy Pearce Leicester. Cert No. 7a. 186.

And Jan. Feb. Mar. Qrt. 1899.
Minnie Pearce. Leicester, cert No. 7a.172.

I did not find Helen’s record …sorry.

If you have not already got the Birth Certificates of either Elizabeth Daisy or Minnie
Then is may be the starting point……. as along the top of these Certificates should be the Parish the Birth took place in. ……..

St. Peter's Parish Church. in the Village of Belgrave.
St. Michael's and All Angels. ( Melton Road. )
St. Lukes. ( Belgrave Road. )

MIKE.

Sorry for the nightmare Mike!!

I got the same baptism details as you from the familysearch site.

The death details for Samuel Sandby are 1850 Q4 Vol 14 Page 390.

I couldn't find it initially but on a whim I looked for Samuel in the National Archives and found one reference for him - Will of Samuel Sanby Yeoman Stamford, Lincolnshire 1850. This made me check the full death reg and I found him. Going to send for the will as soon as I can. Still can't find his wife Rebecca but some of the pages are missing where the Sanby name would be.

I thought I may be on the right track when I looked at the map and saw that Stamford town was very close to Bridge Casterton but didn't think of the district of Stamford!

Thank you again for your help.
Caroline x

Greeting’s again Caroline……..


Ref :~

XIV Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire & Suffolk.


I did start having a look at Parish Burial Registers for the NINE
Villages which came within the Rutland District which were close to Stamford
held at the Records Office but most of then the records stop at 1812……:0((((

But the Village of Ryhall which is only 2.8 miles from Stamford
And only 2.9 miles from Great Casterton the records go up to 1867.

So will explore them next time I’m there.

But I have a feeling we will have to get in touch with Lincolnshire Records Office :~

Lincolnshire Records Office
St.Rumbold Street.
Lincoln
L N 2 5 AB.

Tele; 01522 526 204.

That Will sounds a good chance it will at lest tell you the place of death……
And if Rebecca had died……

MIKE.

Mike,

Pickering and Beaver eh? Now there's a dynamic duo!! ;-))

No luck with picture instructions - didn't get the option of "open with" - just open - and that was as a jpeg ;-((((

"Daisy"

*** F.A.O. *** ...Daisy / Maggie O' Leicester,

HOT OFF THE PRESS......

Amendment to Parade Instructions....
from Head Parade Marshal .......
Due to Road Works ....
Dismissal point will now be in front of the Town Hall.

MIKE.xxx

Hello again Mike

Thank you for searching through the burial registers for me, sorry there were so many.

Have just managed to get the will of Samuel Sanby but boy is it difficult to read. Have just about managed to make out that it says he was of Stamford in the county of Lincoln and that his wife Rebecca is still alive. He made the will on 21/10/1850.

It is going to take me a long time to work out what the rest says!!! I'm going cross eyed already.

I'll let you know how I get on, thank you again for your help.
Caroline x

Hi Mike
I haveThomas Lord marrying Elizabeth? c1595 Countesthorpe can you add to this by giving me a surname and date please
Thankyou

Sue.............

Thanks Mike.

(¯`*•.¸ (¯`*•.¸F.A.O…………Caroline ¸.•*¨) ¸.•*¨)

I’ve had a look at the Last Will & Testament……

Looks like you’ll still have to go out to work for your living…….:0))))

Will made 1st. October. 1850.

Samuel & Rebecca dwelling place KETTON in the County of Rutland.

Appointment of Executors. To act on Samuels behalf. …….

John Sewell Farmer of LAXTON in the County of Northamptonshire.
Joseph Sewell. Farmer of QUADRING in the County of Lincolnshire.
( Mary Sewell was one of the Wit's at Samuels second Marrage )

Should Rebecca out live Samuel…..Then she gets free of any taxes all the household goods. Furniture. Plate, Linen, to use & benefit for life.

£5. to be given to my Sons Samuel & William.

To give to my four Daughters Mary Ann, Frances Elizabeth, Elizabeth Sarah
And Susannah. The said same amount to be paid in to their own accounts free of any taxes.

John & Joseph Sewell ( executors ) to sell the Ketton dwelling house & Tithes
And collect any monies owing to my estate.1st. Paid off expenses for my funeral.
The balance to be shared to an agreeable proportion between members of my family……
This Will supersedes any other Last Will & Testaments made by me.

Signed, Sealed & Published …….. Samuel Sanby… 1st. October. 1850.
In the presents of James Bloor. Goodliffe Jeffson.

Probate approved 27th.November. 1850.
John & Joseph Sewell released from their duties of Execetors.......

I will ask my Solicitor friend this week to explain the legal wording appertaining to the Dwelling place and some other things…….

So it looks like the finial resting place for Samuel could be Ketton
For which I don’t have the burials on any of my disks….:(((
Records Office do though.

MIKE. xx

P.S. ....

In 2007, £5 0s 0d from 1850 is worth

£411.85 using the retail price index.

Thank you so much Mike you're a marvel, I could only make out bits and pieces!!!

I could make out the names John and Joseph Sewell but would not have remembered Mary Sewell being a witness to the wedding.

Do you think it would be better to contact Lincolnshire records office or just get the death cert from the GRO like I usually do. Would I get any other info from the Records office.

Well back to the day job I suppose, no hidden fortune yet, just have to keep trying!!!

Thank you again Mike, you've helped me so much.
Caroline xx

Greeting’s again Caroline……

Well we’ve narrowed it down now……
Samuels death between 1st. October. ~ 27th. November. 1850.

Allow me to now check Ketton’s Burial Registers 1st.
at Leicestershire Records Office.
Then maybe we can enlist the help of the Lincolnshire Records Office…….
But at a price :0(((( …
OR……
Have you thought of registering with Roots web chat Genealogy site which is free.
You could ask on their Lincolnshire Section for help….
& who knows there may be another MIKE out there.to help you. ……:0))))

MIKE,xx

UPDATE. ....

Laxton to Ketton = 8.2 Miles.
Quadring to Ketton. = 28.2 Miles

There will never be another MIKE but hopefully there might be someone who is as generous with their time as you!

That's quite a way to travel from Quadring, I wonder how long it took by horse?!

Big thank you again
Caroline xx

Hi again Mike,

Thank you for your help.

I do have Elizabeth’s birth cert and she was born on Bardolph Street. She was 1 Month at the time of the census (born Feb 1901), but a dash on the M makes it look like 17 months. She did have a brother called Alfred Pearce who died in 1897 who also died in Bardloph Street.

I have looked at St Peter’s church, but I haven’t yet looked at St Michael’s, All Angels or St Lukes, so that is where I will try next!

Thank you again for your help,

Vicky X

Greeting’s again Victoria…..

Conformation of Alfred’s Burial details

Welford Road Cemetery. :~

Plot. No. U.Q. 1011.

Q 1011 C Boeme Walter Sebastian 1868 Jul 1 23 Garton Street Saint Mary 20673
Q 1011 C Thorpe John Joseph 1887 Jun 23 13days Bedford Street Saint Margaret 59880
Q 1011 C PEARCE * ALFRED JAMES JOSEPH * 1897 OCT 11 Aged.1 BARDOLPH STREET LEICESTER 82011
Q 1011 C PEARCE * SARAH DORIS * 1905 APR 15 22.MTHS 133 BARDOLPH STREET LEICESTER 94474
Q 1011 C Perkins Beatrice Lilian 1918 Oct 25 1 131 Lothair Road Leicester 105988

I see that there is a Sarah Doris Pearce also of Bardoph Street & within the same Plot. ……

MIKE.

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