Genealogy Chat

Paula,

I can tell you that one of the deleted posts on the first page was mine. GR was playing up yesterday and didn't seem to be adding posts, so I clicked again and then it added the post twice so I deleted one of them.

Other people may have had the same trouble. People also sometimes delete a post if the information they have found has already been found by the time they add their reply, so they delete so as not to confuse by duplicating information.

Kath. x

Look where she's living!

1881:
Name: Jane Charlton
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Flintshire, Wales

Civil parish: Darlington
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: 10 Fry Street

Registration district: Darlington
Sub-registration district: Darlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Charlton 53 - pudler @ Iron Works; b. Sunderland
Jane Charlton 49
Amelia J. Charlton 21
Eliza Charlton 18
Joseph A. Charlton 12

1861:
Name: Elizabeth Charlton
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph
Mother's name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Darlington St John
Town: Darlington
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: 9 Cleveland St

Registration district: Darlington
Sub-registration district: Darlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 2l
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 394
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Charlton 30 - pudler; b. Sunderland
Jane Charlton 28 - b. Wales
Elizabeth Charlton 8
Amelia Charlton 1 Mo
Edward Oxley 25 - lodger; b. Wales
William Oxley 19 - lodger; b. Wales
Joseph Thomas 31 - lodger
Philip Williams 35 - lodger

Sorry for the delay, GR VERY SLOW, then had to go out.

There is this one but doesn't correspond with Elizabeth's dob.

Marriages Mar 1852
Charlton Joseph Sunderland 10a 349
Cummins John Sunderland 10a 349
Jeffrey Mary Ann Sunderland 10a 349
Oxley Jane Sunderland 10a 349

Thanks for your help Kathleen. Much appreciated.

Either of those are a possibility Helen - You need to get another of the children's birth certificates to see whether that has the maiden name as Oxley or Charlton. Only then will you be sure you have the right birth certificate for John.

Kath. x

If William's mother-in-law was Jane Charlton, could that possibly mean that Elizabeth was a Charlton, or did her mother remarry?

Thank you Ozibird

On William's Death certificate it mentions his mother in law Charlton.

According to 1901, Elizabeth was born in Sunderland.

Sooo.....

Births Jun 1853
Oxley Elizabeth Ann Sunderland 10a 352

Kath

Thanks have now written that down lol

Julie x

No Julie - formerly and nee mean the same (maiden name). It's when "late" is written that it's a first married name.

Kath. x

You need to get the birth certificate for one of the other children and see what the mother's maiden name is on that.

What makes you think that Charlton is the mother's maiden name?

Kath. x

Oops thanks kath, i alway get that bit muddled up.

I thought it was Formerly then Nee

I'm still confused.

So is Oxley her maiden name?

Formerly does not mean married before. Formerly is put before the maiden name.

If a person has been married twice it would say Mary Smith, late Jones (the first married name), formerly Brown (the maiden name).

The word Late is used for the first married name.

Kath. x

I'll get Arthur's b/c but he was born after John. I can't see how it would help if it came up with the same as John's certificate.

Referring to the 1881 census James T was the eldest child - but I can't locate his b/c.

Ok. So how do I find out what her maiden name is. I don't appear to find her under Darlington records, but I could be wrong.

No - that's all it states. Sorry

Says formerly Oxley? Did originally check with Darlington RO and they said it was the correct one, even when I gave Charlton as her maiden name. That's why I'm confused