Genealogy Chat

Sorry I've only just noticed this post!
Thanks Karen, I've also had the same conclusion from Danielle and want to Thank both of you for looking into this for me.
It sounds very much like you've both hit the nail on the head but I'm still slightly confused as to where the Taylor comes from?
I'm also still confused as to which Thomas was Matilda's father?
Thomas Beasley (Jonathan & Elizabeths brother) or Thomas Elliot (Betsy's widow)
Either way Rebecca would have been his Niece!!! But I need to know which is the right family to trace back further.

Thanking you again for your wonderful help, it's truely appreciated.
Kim

Hi there
I think I may have found the connection between Betsey Elliott (nee Beasley) and Rebecca.
On the 1871 Stewkley census, Rebecca Beasley is listed with her family, her father being Jonathan Beasley, age 47 (I think - the age has got a line through it), a widow, born in Stewkley Bucks. Rebecca has a brother, George, and two sisters, Betsy (18) and Ann (20).
I found Jonathan Beasley (rebecca's father) on the 1841 census, with his parents and siblings, one of which was Elizabeth Beasley age 5 (but they did round the age up on the 1841 census), so this could have been the Betsy Beasley who married Thomas Elliott. Not sure why rebecca would have been shown as 'sister in law' on the census though?
Just to confuse matters even more, Jonathan and Elizabeth Beasley are the brother and sister to Thomas Beasley (b. 1835 Stewkley, hawker), mentioned at the beginning of the post.
Hope this may help...
Karen

Tee hee thanks Reggie

The Betsey and Thomas Elliott mentioned are the same couple who married in 1854 in Buckinghamshire. Betsy's maiden name is Beasley but I cannot find any connection to Rebecca......

I've thought about this while having lunch.........and realised I'd had a complete 'rush of blood', with regard to Betsey's age.

Put it down to hunger.........or simple stupidity!

Reg

Thanks for your help

I think i'll order the bc for Minnie & possibly Ann, hopefully that will shed some light.....

Thanks Again

Betsey Beasley is 8 in 1861 and 18 in 1871.........the wife of Thomas Elliott in 1881 is 28.

Clutching at straws, perhaps?
Reg

Do you think this could be the same Minnie?

What do you mean "1881.....Betsey's age tallies with the girl in 1861/1871" ?

1881.....Betsey's age tallies with the girl in 1861/1871

Name: Minnie Bealy
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Chelsea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 1 St Hildas Ter (Abbey)
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North-East
ED, institution, or vessel: 16b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bealy 22
Edmund Bealy 15
Minnie Bealy 5
Betsy Elliott 48
Thomas Elliott 40 Occ; Platelayer

Reg

Minnie's birth reg'n....

Name: Minnie Beasley
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Winslow
County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 579

Reg

Thanks for looking Reggie.
I suspect that Sarah Rebecca Beasley born Stewkley is her. Not sure where the Taylor came from but I suppose she could have made it up for Matilda's bc.....
I found a death registered for Ann Beasley.
Minnie Beasley I'm not sure where she was on the 1881 but there is a Minnie Bealy aged 5 boarding with a Thomas & Betsy Elliot (just to confuse things!)

In 1861, there is no-one named Taylor resident in Stewkley.

Reg

Oh I didn't know that Kath, hmmm that could be another possibility I guess.

The Thomas & Mary Beasley is a different family (I think!) They are shown on all census upto 1901 so surely that cant be the same guy ?

Can anyone find a Rebecca Taylor born that time in that area?

You also need to bear in mind that in those days "sister-in-law" could also mean "step-sister".

Kath. x

marr reg


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>>> Thomas Beasley 1854 Oct-Nov-Dec Winslow Buckinghamshire
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>>> Mary Quainton 1854 Oct-Nov-Dec Winslow Buckinghamshire
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Joseph Scott 1854 Oct-Nov-Dec Winslow Buckinghamshire
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Elizabeth Smith 1854 Oct-Nov-Dec Winslow Buckinghamshire

All are possibilities I shall look into - Thank you.

I haven't searched for Thomas Elliotts death, thanks for that.

The Minnie Beasley that is mentioned later married a man called Epps I believe, I spoke to one of her descendants and she seems to think that Rebecca Beasley was her mother.... only one way to find that out I guess.

Looks like Thomas was married before

1861

Name: Thomas Beasley
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Stewkley
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 19f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Beasley 2
Mary Beasley 24
Thomas Beasley 26

1851

Name: Thomas Baisley
[Thomas Beasley]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Male
Where born: Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Stewkley
Ecclesiastical parish: North East
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 9a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Eadward Baisley 6
John Baisley 50
John Baisley 9
Joseph Baisley 13
Mary Ann Baisley 3
Rebecca Baisley 47
Thomas Baisley 15

Surely Betsy Beasley would have been Thomas Beasley's sister and not Rebecca's sister. This would still make Rebecca the sister in law of Thomas Elliott.

Kath. x

This may cause more problems than it solves.............1861

Name: Sarah Rebecca Beasley
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jonathan
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Stewkley
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 19f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Beasley 10
Bettsy Beasley 8
Eliza Beasley 40
George Beasley 5
Henry Beasley 13
Jonathan Beasley 37
Sarah Rebecca Beasley 2

This is the only result for Rebecca born Stewkley c1859...........

Same family in 1871

Name: Rebecca Beasley
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jonathan
Gender: Female
Where born: Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Stewkley
Town: Stewkley
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Beasley 20
Betsey Beasley 18
George Beasley 15
Jonathan Beasley 47
Rebecca Beasley 12


Reg

Have you looked for a death of Thomas Elliott?

Perhaps the house they were in actually belonged to Thomas Elliott and when he died Thomas and Rebecca Beasley moved in (which is why the same address comes up on both census).

I am only trying to give ideas fo you to think about, as there is a Thomas Beasley on the 1891 census from the right birthplace and born the right time.

Kath. x