Genealogy Chat

Lesley deep breathes lol. OK I have the same on hubbies side his gt grandfather was bought up by his gran as her daughter had him no father so have sort of adopted that family as ours lol. Just say that Phillips wasnt his name and just one he used (my dad desnt use the name on his birth cert) .where did you look for his miliary stuff on ancestry or on national Archives

Oh,dah,I'm so thick.If I look at his ' father ' John and 'mother' Amelia ,if his sister was his real mother and without a birth certif it will be father unknown , all the people I thought I was related to, I'm not.I thought of the ones in wales but there are a few and I don't really know where to start as they could all be not mine.I cant understand why his military no didn't come up with something though.

lesley on the bedwelty one find out the local reg office phone hem and see if they will do a check for you, some will some wont for the cost of a phone call ou could save yourself £7

why not try the one in Gower (thats in wales isnt it?) if it was Helenas then she may of gone back to where she was born to have him so as to avoid any scandal. If you dont want to go that route how about one of the other children birth cert to make sure of the parents names.

I found a John Leslie James in Bedwelty Reg Dec 1898 ref 11a/64 Could his mother 'gone to the country' to produce him? Eileen

Well,thats it I give up. I'm completely stumped.Iv'e looked at military records.Births for devon and wales and I can't see him anywhere. I will have to miss him out and go for the certif of his father and hope it's the right one.Thanks to all of you for your help.

If family talk is right and he was actually Helenas then it may be possile she went away to have him so we could eb looking for another registration district

I have been looking through some letters from his daughters for clues.All I have found out is that he altered his age by 2 years to get into the army.service no 201254 private 1/5 th east surrey reg.medals british war medal and victory medal. discharged 21st oct 1919.rifleman 28/7/1915 stokes gunner april 1918 .I dont know if that helps or even makes any sense to you . Amelia died august 1944 age 89 at pelham rd wimbledon according to my aunt.but Iv'e never found record of it on ancestry.

do we know when Amelia died and was she definitely around when Phillip was young?

Yep, thats where I got stuck too.:o)

I see that Amelia was nee Babb.

Ok got family in 1891 in wimbledon minus Philip of course

Well, this looks like them in 1891 in Wimbledon. John James Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Amelia Gender: Male Where born: Buckleigh, Devon, England Civil Parish: Wimbledon Ecclesiastical parish: Wimbledon Town: Wimbledon County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Kingston Sub-registration district: Wimbledon ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Amelia James 35 Florence James 13 Helena James 15 John James 40 Lilian James 10 View Original Record View original image

I can't remember. I must have seen it somewhere to make the change from wales to wimbledon.If I hadn't seen it I would have taken it as wales the same as his sisters.But I have looked everywhere and I cant re-find the information I must have seen before.

where do you get that he was born in Wimbledon from?

Dawn, havent got the certif yet but on ancestry it says b 1899 age at death 87.Woking north west surrey 17 p 694.

Lesley what age does it give on the death cert? Cant find any for that district in Nov quarter for both years, got one in jun quarter of 1899 in wales?

Dawn, I have his death as july qtr 1987 woking surrey.His is phillip James on there.

thats a big gap between the last two isnt it. Do you know what your grandads name is on your parents marriage cert or does his death cert give any clues. Will run off and see if I can find him anywhere dx

Dawn, I think father John b 1852 Buckland devon.Mother b 1856 Landcross devon. marriage 1875 Merthyr Tidfil wales. But I need his certif to make sure Iv'e got the right people. Reg was guiding me this morning and said I need to get the certif to make sure I'm looking for the right people.see thread ' totally confused'. His sisters were born aberdare.Helena 1876.Florence,1878.Lilian b 1880 wimbledon phillip b 28/11/1898 wimbledon.