Genealogy Chat

Nudge so I can find again.

Coincidentally our Coroner in Norwich, is a William J. Armstrong - he would be in late 50s/early 60s I suppose or would have retired. No idea where he is from tho, used to be a Solicitor. This is such a fascinating tale and so nice to see everyone working together, I wonder whether Patricia is aware of all the interest and care on this thread, maybe she will send some guidance at some point.

I'm with Linda on this, if Henrietta was born 1908 then she should stop having children around 1953 (age 45) Any children born to her & George could well be registered as Francis as this is something that I've come across in my own tree.

FreeBMD won't be much use for the period we're looking at as it's not complete, as has been said. Why not look for older siblings of Patricia. They may have only married in 1933, but that doesn't mean that Henrietta didn't have a child before 1934. She could have been pregnant when she married. Just an idea.

Just a thought that as Patricia was born 1934 I doubt if her mother would have been having kids after 1962 with Mr Francis would she?? will carry on with Armstrongs

1937 Jan q Joan South Shields 10a 981 april q Orfilia B.M Swansea 11a 1223 July q Sheila M.C Nthmblnd N. 2nd 10b 688

This is a wonderful thread, and a little nudge to catch up later Ann xxx

1936 Armstrong mmn Wilson Jan q Audrey Newcastle T 10b 40 April q Richard Whitehaven 10b 948 Roy W Wigton 10b 832 July q Elizabeth Manchester N. 8d 622 Keith Manchester N. 8d 623

Thank you Linda, it could be either the Tynemouth or Newcastle T entries, if Henrietta returned 'home' after the war ended. no one in Genes is researching Rita or Louvaine, or Cyril c xx

1935 Armstrong mmn Wilson Jan q Cyril Tynemouth 10b pge 69 July q Christopher J.R Cambridge 3b 567 Rita Newcastle T 10b 30 dec q Lovaine Alnwick 10b 643

I am very sorry Susan - as you'd put a birth date I thought you'd found a birth entry as well as the death entry c xx

I wonder if any of these Wilsons in the 1901 census for Newcastle on Tyne are brothers or sisters of Henrietta Maud Wilson? I searched : 1910 plus/minus 10 years. Results: 1 - 33 of 33 Matches View Name Age Where born Administrative county Civil parish Occupation James H Wilson 1M Northumd Newcastle On Tyne Newcastle On Tyne Byker John D Wilson 9M Northld Newcastle Newcastle Upon Tyne Byker Jonathan Wilson 6M Northumd Newcastle On T Newcastle On Tyne Byker Alexander Wilson 2M Newcastle On Tyne Newcastle On Tyne St Johns John Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Westgate Allan Wilson 10M Newcastle Northumberland Northumberland Jesmond Arthur Wilson 2M Newcastle On Tyne Northumberland All Saints William E Wilson 1 Wallsend Northbland Newcastle Upon Tyne Byker Peter Wilson 1 Northumberland Byker Newcastle Upon Tyne Byker Henry Wilson 5M Newcastle On Tyne Elswick Henry C Wilson 2M Newcastle On Tyne Newcastle On Tyne Byker Jack H Wilson 3M Newcastle On Tyne Elswick George Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Elswick James Matt Wilson 1M Newcastle Elswick James N Wilson 9M Newcastle On Tyne Elswick John Wilson 11M Newcastle On Tyne Newcastle On Tyne All Saints Mathew Wilson 1 Northumberland No Shields Newcastle On Tyne Byker Thomas Wilson 1 Newcastle Newcastle On Tyne All Saints Matthew D Wilson 3M St Anthonys Newcastle Nthbld Newcastle Upon Tyne Byker Samuel Wilson 2W Newcastle On Tyne Newcastle On Tyne All Saints Thomas A Wilson 2M Northd Newcastle Elswick Alfred A Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Elswick Douglas S Wilson 5M Newcastle On Tyne Westgate William Wilson 10M Newcastle On Tyne Durham Westgate Frederick Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Elswick Bartholomew B Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Westgate Godfrey J Wilson 1 Durham Gateshead Elswick Thomas Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Newcastle On Tyne Byker John Wilson 1 Northumberd Newcastle Elswick George Wilson 1M Newcastle On Tyne Elswick William Wilson 1 Northd Newcastle On Tyne Elswick John Jackson Wilson 1 Newcastle Newcastle Upon Tyne Jesmond Thomas Wilson 1 Newcastle On Lyne Westgate 1 - 27 of 27 Matches View Name Age Where born Administrative county Civil parish Occupation Barbara Wilson 1M Northland Newcastle Durham Westgate Isabella Wilson 1 Newcastle Upon Tyne Newcastle Upon Tyne Byker Theresa Wilson 23M Newcastle On Tyne Elswick Elz W W Wilson 2W Northd Byker Northumberland Byker Grace Wilson 10M Newcastle On Tyne Elswick Hilda Wilson 8M Newcastle On Tyne Elswick Janet Wilson 9M Newcastle On Tyne Elswick Margaret Wilson 9M Northumd Newcastle Newcastle Upon Tyne Byker Margaret Jane Wilson 9M Newcastle On Tyne Newcastle On Tyne All Saints Mary A Wilson 7M Newcastle Newcastle On Tyne All Saints Mary E Wilson 4M Newcastle Newcastle On Tyne All Saints Mary E Wilson 5M Northd Newcastle On Tyne Elswick Violet A Wilson 2M Newcastle On Tyne Elswick Cecilia Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Northumberland All Saints Eva P Wilson 1 Sunderland Elswick Flora C Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Westgate Florence M Wilson 1 Northd Newcastle On Tyne Elswick James M Wilson 1 Northumberland Newcastle Elswick Jane Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Northumberland All Saints Jane Ann Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Newcastle Upon Tyne Byker Julian Wilson 1 Northumd Newcastle On T Newcastle On Tyne Byker Lily J Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Westgate Margaret Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Elswick Mary Wilson 1 Yorks Wakefield Northumberland Jesmond Mary E Wilson 1 Northbld Newcastle Elswick Rachel C Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Elswick Sarah A Wilson 1 Newcastle On Tyne Heaton Newcastle On Tyne Heaton Name Age Where born Administrative county Civil parish Occupation Henrietta Wilson 10 Newcastle On Tyne Newcastle Upon Tyne All Saints no Maud Wilson of any age. But I havent tried looking for William Armstrong's family, as I dont know where or when he was born.

ok starting on Armstrong mmn Wilson 1934

Hi Linda its become quite a quest and I am sure Paul will be pleased to have 'another pair of hands'. What's needed is : births, Armstrong, mothers name Wilson, from 1934 onwards (already got Patricia). births, Francis, mothers name Wilson, from 1962 onwards. death, William Armstrong, from 1934 up to 1962 (his age not known but old enough to be a married man and serving soldier in WW2). I'd say any area, because they could have moved around. c xx

I've got ancestry if you tell me what to look for and what years I'm happy to search

was the mothers maiden name given, Susan? c xx

Hi Rachel would a man aged 68 in 1943 be Patricia's father? I guess its not impossible but it would mean that Henrietta married a much older man. is there anyone who can get to the Woolwich register office to study parish records for the 1933 marriage? that would save the cost of a certificate. as I said earlier, the parish record would show the respective father's names which might help trace the families in the 1901 census and lead to siblings' descendants being found. No one in Genes seems to be researching a Henrietta Maud Wilson. There is a Henrietta born 1908..... but not Newc/Tyne. c xx

All Given that William Armstrong didn’t appear in the ERs after 1939/40 I searched deaths from 1938 – 1945; two stand out: Q1 1941 William Armstrong 35 Strood 2a 2392 Q1 1943 William Armstrong 68 Greenwich 1d 796 I’m leaning towards the 1943 one, this would mean that Hetty lost both her husband and then her daughter with in a few months of each other. I think my next steps are death cert followed by the marriage – let me know your opinions. The marriage I'm thinking about is: Q2 1933 Woolwich 1d 2308 Henrietta Wilson & William Armstrong Thanks Rachel

Hi everyone, I have just sat and read this story it is brilliant what you are doing, will be back to read the rest later bed is now calling. Phyllis

Claire, thee and me are the great minds that think alike :) It occurred to me that William might have lived up to 1962 but he would have been prevented from going to his daughter's funeral if he'd been in a prisoner of war camp for the duration. This could explain why there is no William Armstrong (wife Henrietta) entry in the CWG, and also account for Henrietta Armstrong's re-marriage in 1962 rather than an earlier year. c xx